upcoming JC - info needed

by mineralogist 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • blondie
    blondie

    Unit 5(a) in the Pay Attention to the Flock book

    Apostasy.

    Apostasy is a standing away from, a falling away, defec-
    tion, rebellion, abandonment; it involves teaching false
    doctrines, supporting or promoting false religion and its
    holidays or interfaith activities.
    (Deut. 13:13, 15; Josh.
    22:22, ftn.; Acts 21:21, ftn.; 2 Cor. 6:14, 15, 17, 18;
    2. John 7, 9, 10; Rev. 18:4)

    Those with sincere doubts should be helped, dealt with
    mercifully. (Jude 22, 23; w82 9/1 pp. 20-1;w80 8/1
    pp. 21-2)

    Apostasy includes action taken against true worship of
    Jehovah or his established order among his dedicated
    people. (Jer. 17:13; 23:15; 28:15, 16; 2 Thess. 2:9, 10)

    Persons who

    deliberately spread (stubbornly hold to and
    speak about) teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught
    by Jehovah's Witnesses are apostates.

    The Bible condemns the following:

    Causing divisions and promoting sects.

    This would be

    deliberate action disrupting the unity
    of the congregation or undermining the confidence
    of the brothers in Jehovah's arrangement.

    It

    may involve or lead to apostasy . (Rom. 16:
    17, 18; Titus 3:10, 11 )

    Baptized persons who have not associated for some time

    .

    If you learn of serious wrongdoing on the part of such a
    person,

    the matter should be investigated if it poses a
    threat to the congregation's cleanness and welfare or caus-
    es a public scandal.

    Consider the following:

    Does he still profess to be a Witness?

    Is he

    generally recognized as such in the congrega-
    tion and/or t e community
    ?

    Does the person have a measure of contact or
    association with the congregation

    so that a leaven-
    ing, or corrupting, influence exists?

    How did the matter become known to the elders?

    Is the person

    willing to meet with a committee,
    thus admitting accountability to the Christian con-
    gregation?

    Depending upon length of inactivity and other factors
    suggested above, elders may determine to hold the
    matter in abeyance.

    In such a case,

    a record of the person's questionable
    conduct should be made for the congregation file so
    that everything noted might be clarified when the
    person shows interest in becoming active again.

    If the sinful conduct is

    known only to believing family
    members and no congregation action is taken because
    of the factors outlined above, believing relatives will
    likely determine to curtail family association severely,
    viewing the relative as bad association.
    ( I Cor. 15:33)

  • minimus
    minimus

    If the JC invites you and you don't go, you can still be df'd. In order for the JC to be formed in the 1st place, alleged charges have to be verified---otherwise a JC is not possible.......Of course a group of elders can ignore that procedure but that is how they might legally get into problems.

  • mineralogist
    mineralogist

    Back from the meeting i must say it seems to be ok for now. Accusation is contact with DF'ed and spreading info within the congo (what we only did with real friends). I found out we can't fade in a quite way - there is already too much rumor (gossip?) about us. But this decision is ours and i'll try hard to get it. Besides it was a training in dialectics as neither clear questions nor clear answers where given from both sides (did they expect? I didn't).

    I mentioned specifically that we won't return to this congo due to serious problems with all the elders which i gave some details for. "I'll wait on Jehova for this to be solved". So "works of repentance" must be something other than attending meetings there.

  • blondie
    blondie

    It confirms what I think, never tell anyone anything, not even "real" friends. Congratulations on dodging the bullet, mineralogist. They must not have had much info to use against you. "Repentance" means kissing the hands and feet of the elders for the next 10 years, admitting everything they say is right and you are wrong.

    Blondie

  • Balsam
    Balsam

    mineralogist ,

    I wrote letters to all those in the congregation I felt close too two weeks before the disfellowshipping announcement. About 10 letters. Well no one responded to the letters, and they ran in horror if they saw me in public. No I did not say anything apostate or anything they could view as as apostate. Just the fact I was going to leave my abusive husband for another man who knew how to be kind. LOL I figured that they had their time to try and get me to change my mind, but not narry a one showed up.

    As for fading out, well unless you totally keep your mouth shut, and out of the JW radar it is a a hard thing to accomplish. Moving out of your home territory is about the only way to do that.

    My son tried to fade out, but his Dad just would not let that happen. When my son had his girlfriend move in with him, his Dad dropped a dime on him with the Elders. My son had been out for over 3 years. Well the Elders showed up found the girlfriend wrapped in a towel at his apartment and the fun was on. JC invited him to come, he just laughed at them. They announced his disfellowshipping about 3 weeks later. No letter, no nothing ever came in the mail. Understand now that documentation is something they avoid due to law suits.

    Ruth

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    terry said:

    Had I not showed up they would not and could not have disfellowshipped me.

    Why? Because I had not done anything! There was no evidence, testimony or fact against me.

    Then of course there should not have been a JC at all - they must have skirted the "investigation and gathering witnesses" part

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    A JC committee for apostacy?! Forget about it..., you're as good as done!!! No use in fighting it, I tell you.

    DY

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