The Gentile Times are The Time of The End!

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  Guard

  Hello, brothers. I don't speak English, but I really want to share what I have. So sorry for mistakes and style.

  So, the all detected parallels (exact connections) between the quotes of Daniel 11:44-12:7 and Revelation 11:2-18 are:

  1) The “time of the end” (Daniel) and “days of trampling of the Holy city by the Gentiles” (John) finish before the time of court of the dead, i.e. the resurrection (Daniel 12:2; Revelation 11:15-18).

  2) The “time of the end” (Daniel) and “the times of trampling of Jerusalem by Gentiles” (John) finish before the supernatural retribution on the Gentiles for the trampling of God’s people (Daniel 11:44-12:1; Revelation 11:18).

  3) In the “time of the end” (Daniel) and in the “time of the trampling of Jerusalem by the Gentiles” (John) pagan enemies are fighting in the same place – directly near the mountain of the most glorious sanctuary of the Jehovah’s Temple! (Daniel 11:44,45; Revelation 11:2)

  4) Just as in the “time of the end” (Daniel), so in the “time of the trampling of Jerusalem by the Gentiles” (John), the pagan enemies of God’s people have one goal — “trampling” (Rev. 11: 2) or “destruction” (Dan. 11:44) of God’s servants.

  5) Just as in the “time of the end” in Daniel, so in the “time of the trampling of Jerusalem” in John, the murder of God’s servants by a powerful pagan ruler is caused by fear and torment because of news coming from a Divine source (Revelation 11:7,10; Daniel 11:44)

  6) Just as after the “time, times, and half-time” (Daniel) comes the “complete overthrow of the power of the Holy people” (Dan. 12:7), so after the “time of the trampling of Jerusalem by the Gentiles” (which has same duration) of John (Rev. 11:2,3; 12:6,14) events end in the same way — the death of the anointed servants of Jehovah and the victory of the Gentile powerful king (Rev 11:7-10,13). The king whose final death will only occur as a result of supernatural intervention from above (Daniel 11:45, Revelation 11:18).

  As you can see, there is no any interpretation or analogy with reality in the above analysis. It is not needed. The only thing we have achieved is an accurate understanding that the “time of the end” predicted by Daniel (11:40 and 12:4, NWT) is the “time of the trampling of Jerusalem by the Gentiles” revealed by Jesus through John (Rev. 11:2,3), and previously predicted by Him through Luke (Luke 21: 24).

  At the moment, there are only the four main things you need to understand and remember from both of these articles:

  1) When Christ speaks of the trampling of Jerusalem by the Gentiles in Luke 21:24 and Rev 11:2, he speaks of the same event, the fulfillment of which is yet to come.

  2) The “Beast” from the 11th Chapter of Revelation and the last “king of the North” from the 11th Chapter of Daniel are the same king.

  3) “The Gentile Times” (Rev. 11:2,3; 12:6,14) and the “time of the end” (Daniel 11:40 and 12:4) are the same period of time, lasting 3.5 times or 1,260 literal days. Proof of this is found in other prophecies reviewed on this site. By the end of this period, the “Holy people” revealed to the world will be deposed and trampled on.

  4) The end of the “times of the Gentiles” is the moment when Jehovah takes revenge on the Gentiles (compare Daniel 12:10-12). From this moment, the Kingdom of Christ finally restores God’s power over the entire earth, and does not begin “invisibly”, for a long time and imperceptibly ruling somewhere in the sky, as the Watchtower teaches.

  That’s why the “times of the Gentiles” are the “time of the end”!

  
  

  Not as an ad, the original post is here: The Gentile Times are The Time of The End!
  
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  Jehalapeno

  Have you ever considered the possibility that you could be wrong about all your spiritual beliefs?
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  GregW

  The terminology used for non Jewish (gentiles) has continued for thousands of years even before the establishment of Israel/Judea.
  

  Ancient civilizations existed well before the establishment of Judea or Israel by the Hebrews such as Egyptian or the Canaanites to name a couple.
  

  A link for Carl Olof Jonson's book Gentile Times Reconsidered a good read

  The Gentile Times Reconsidered
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  Guard

  @Jehalapeno

  We can now explore my personality for a long time, but in the context of the topic, it does not matter. The topic uses a whole series of analogies, and their number says that they are far from random.

  @GregW

  Yes, it's a great book, but it's about the Watchtower error. As you can see, the Bible contains the simplest and most accurate definition of this question.

  For example, the Watchtower's secret prophet Robert King systematically bans such materials because they expose his ignorance of the most basic and most important prophetic questions. This Diotrephus is very fond of earthly glory. The real spiritual children of the Watchtower are no different from each other.
  
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  DATA-DOG

  Have you ever considered that the current “Bible” is a collection of writings that people chose to put together and label as “God’s Word” because it fit the purpose they wanted to fulfill, namely controlling large numbers of people through a centralized Authority/Government?

  Who gave them the right to ignore countless other ancient writings and exclude them from “God’s Word?”

  Have you ever considered there is absolutely nothing special about Jewish people, nothing that sets them apart from any other race, and therefore they are not a chosen people and none of those writings have any modern significance?

  DD
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  Guard

  Have you ever considered that the current “Bible” is a collection of writings that people chose to put together and label as “God’s Word” because it fit the purpose they wanted to fulfill, namely controlling large numbers of people through a centralized Authority/Government?
  

  Morally speaking, everything that happens in this world is done contrary to the Bible. This book dispassionately shows the dishonesty of various sectarians and all who seemed to want to govern with it.

  This is very strange for a book that someone has written to supposedly govern with it. I would say on the contrary, that this book is like a bone in their throat. I wouldn't be surprised if I live to see the censorship ban this book completely. Look at the Watchtower. In order to govern with the help of the Bible, they are forced to pervert what is written in it!

  Absolutely one thing can be said: only liars who pervert the Bible seek to rule with the it. This book is clearly written against them.
  

  After all, this whole book is about restoring the Kingdom of God, not the kingdom of men. Jesus was even killed because He preached the kingdom of God, not the earthly kingdom of the Watchtower or similar fabulists.

  Therefore, it also gives confidence that the real times of the Gentiles are the time of the end, which must come to the world.
  
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  DesirousOfChange

  
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  Phizzy

  The Bible is not a single Book. It is a collection of writings from many Centuries by many Writers, all of whom wrote for the people of their own time.

  It is not a Book of Prophecy.

  Also, to join parts of those writings together which were written Centuries apart is just plain silly.
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  Guard

  Also, to join parts of those writings together which were written Centuries apart is just plain silly.

  What you write is offtop. Even if what you say about the Bible is true, it does not negate the veracity of the specific topic and the accuracy of the research presented in it. This is all the more true and surprising when you consider that more than 600 years have passed between the writing of the two quotations studied.

  With such a large number of obvious matches, any qualified analyst is obliged to confirm the truthfulness of the message. Otherwise, he will be kicked out of his job.
  
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  GregW

  Look at the Watchtower. In order to govern with the help of the Bible, they are forced to pervert what is written in it!Absolutely one thing can be said: only liars who pervert the Bible seek to rule with the it.

  Cant really argue that.

  The ancient Hebrews were set about to support "their' own select god, their god which they proclaimed was the highest and mightiest god over all others and he had chosen them as his earthly chosen ones.

  They were therefore in need to create power and relevance, to create and support belief, respect and worship for themselves.

  Not really that hard to understand when you really think about it.

  The JWS proclaimed that Jehovah god has left the Hebrews (Jews) and went on to choose them as his earthly chosen people.

  That's a story in itself with understanding reason, purpose and intent.