1/2 of the Jehovah’s witnesses have gone

by hoser 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte
    Members still in are there because of either sunk cost fallacy, fear, family ties, stupidity, willfull ignorance, need of a controlled group, narcissistic feelings or some combination of these.

    While I understand and partly agree with the statement, I also think it oversimplifies a very complex reality.

    Next month, I’m visiting the Vatican. I don’t believe in the Bible or in Jesus as a divine figure. Yet I still value many of the ethical principles that have been passed down through Christian tradition. Like it or not, much of the Western world’s moral foundation, including my own, comes from centuries of Christian influence. The Catholic Church, with all its contradictions, played a major role in keeping that legacy alive.

    I won’t be going as a believer, but I will go with a sense of gratitude for the cultural, philosophical, and moral heritage, even if it’s imperfect. Of course, I’m aware of the darker parts of history: the Inquisition, colonialism, abuse, the mistreatment of women, and more. These aren’t minor details. They’re real and serious. But I see them as going against the core messages of compassion, humility, and forgiveness that also survived.

    Many people who are still part of the Church may struggle with its past and present problems. But some stay not because of fear or ignorance, but because they believe those core values still matter, and they want to represent them.

    It’s easy to judge others from a distance, but that rarely helps. People are complicated. Some stay in institutions for reasons that might seem weak, such as fear of shunning or sunk cost fallacy, while others stay because they are trying to do something good.

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu
    It’s easy to judge others from a distance, but that rarely helps. People are complicated. Some stay in institutions for reasons that might seem weak, such as fear of shunning or sunk cost fallacy, while others stay because they are trying to do something good.
    It seems you are combining all christian groups into one big lump. My judgement is specifically for JW's. My judgement is not from a distance, I lived it. Ever hear of the "KISS" acronym Keep It Simple Stupid. I'm sorry, but all the complications you speak of are all just excuses for staying in. That's fine if that's what you want to do, but then don't cry about it.
    I was in Rome for 3 days and spent a day at the Vatican and St. Peters Basilica. It is overwhelming and amazing. Go early it gets crowded., everything is crowded over there. If you can take a tour of one of the Catacombs, that was really cool to me. Well, actually the whole area is incredible. The Roman Forum, Castel SantAngelo, Trevi fountain and of course the Colliseum and so many other places to see.
  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt


    More and more Jehovah’s Witnesses across the United Kingdom are walking away from the Watchtower — elders, pioneers, and lifelong members who once believed they had “the truth.” But what’s really behind this growing exodus?

    In this video, we dive deep into the reasons why so many are leaving:

    Doctrinal doubts
    Family shunning
    Declining numbers
    Cultural tension with UK values
    And a personal rediscovery of biblical truth.


    You’ll hear real stories from ex-JWs in the UK who found the courage to think for themselves — and found freedom on the other side.

    This video was released 6 hours ago by Kingdom Wisdom on YouTube.

    Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynfZAhVFUPs

    ***

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat
    And a personal rediscovery of biblical truth.

    No biased perspective there, then. 🤨

    I can’t stand these AI generated videos. Maybe someday they’ll get better, but as it is I find them unwatchable.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    I can only speak for here in the UK, but I don't believe that "half of the JWs have gone".

    However, I wouldn't be surprised if a large number are effectively passive participants now, certainly in Western countries.

    There have been a number of changes in recent years which many of us have commented on in other threads, that may not have reduced the numbers of JWs but have certainly reduced their activity and what used to be called "zeal".

    1. the numbers who have not returned to in-person meetings since COVID;
    2. the number of foreign language groups and even congregations that have been disbanded;
    3. the noticeable drop in the number of "publishers" regularly going out on field service from the groups, firstly since the return after COVID, and another drop since the removal of the hour reporting requirements for everyone;
    4. the reduction in baptisms in English congregations.

    I think that a large number - possibly as many as half, but at least a significant minority - are simply going through the motions. They still consider themselves JWs, not for the sake of the GB but based on their own belief in Jehovah God himself and their own understanding of the Bible (not all of which might align with the GB2.0 teachings any more, especially since these seem to change with the wind these days). However, for various reasons - ranging from burnout, to distractions from everyday life, to a lack of a personal sense of urgency - they don't act as the "old school" JWs of the pre-2000s did.

    This might mean there is a something of a timebomb ticking in the congregation of members who will rebel or just not follow "direction" in the near future, but I don't sense a huge wave of leavers at the present time. The number of incomers (from new students and baptisms) is definitely drying up though.

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit