Sept. 21 watchtower-your disfellowshipped kids aren't your fault

by joey jojo 13 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • St George of England
    St George of England
    So, all those who return after being DF'ed, can now partake?

    That has always been the case. If an anointed one is DF'ed and returns and is reinstated he is still of the heavenly calling. Life on earth should not be viewed as a "second prize" if you fail as an anointed.

    Latest advice for jw parents: if your kids get disfellowshipped, fight the urge to blame yourself.

    The elders will do the blaming for you. Which is why, in more than one case I am familiar with, fathers of DF'ed sons "lost their privileges", they were removed as elders. I am sure many on here will be familiar with similar cases.


  • BluesBrother

    This also from the article ...they see it as " love"


    Disfellowshipping​—Jehovah’s Loving Discipline at Work

    How does the disfellowshipping arrangement reflect God’s love?

    1. 1.Love motivates elders to make every effort to help wrongdoers. A Christian is disfellowshipped only if two factors coincide: He has committed a serious sin, and he is not repentant.​—Heb. 12:7, 9-11.

    2. 2.Disfellowshipping protects the congregation. An unrepentant sinner is like a person who has a highly contagious viral infection and needs to be quarantined in order to protect others from getting sick.​—1 Cor. 5:6, 7, 11-13.

    3. 3.Disfellowshipping may move a sinner to repent. Many who got disfellowshipped were jolted to their senses and in time returned to Jehovah.​—Luke 15:11-24.

    4. 4.When a repentant wrongdoer returns, the heavens rejoice and the congregation welcomes him back.​—Luke 15:7.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    Look upon being disfellowshipped as a blessing..a reward. Youre free!

  • Bobcat
    Surely Hebrews 12 : 11 is talking about God's discipline, not man's.

    If you look at the entire immediate context (Heb 12:1-13) it shows that it is talking about opposition or persecution that God allows as a form of discipline or training.

    First, it shows how Jesus faced opposition. (Heb 12:1-3)

    Next, the writer tells the reader that they haven't yet shed their blood over opposition like Jesus did (an obvious point, seeing how the reader is still alive). (Heb 12:4)

    Verses 5 thru 8 then make the comparison of a son (the reader) with a father (God) who administers the discipline for the long term benefit of the son. And if the father didn't give discipline it would seem that the father was acting as if the son was illegitimate or not his own son.

    Verses 9 and 10 continues the father-son example by comparing God's discipline with the imperfect discipline we may have received from our human fathers. We accepted that, therefore, if we consider God as our father, we should also accept the discipline from God, which, as the context is discussing, is opposition to being a disciple of Jesus. (Heb 12:2)

    Verses 11 thru 13 then offer encouragement to allow the discipline to make the reader a better Christian.

    The WT is taking these verses out of context when they apply them to DFing. And from what I have seen, they only apply these verses to discipline within the congregation, not to outside opposition. It serves as a good example of WT twisting the scriptures to their own use. They are teaching "the commands of men as doctrine."

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