I agree DOC, I don't worry about the past, I'm glad I got out.
1975 !
by Sea Breeze 48 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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liam
1975 was based on the last generation that would not die. I can’t help but imagine that the early Christian followers also got duped, out of a normal life.
How could this be if Jesus said that no one knows the day or hour?
Well because Jesus Also said; Matthew 24:34 I can promise you that some of the people of this generation will still be alive when all this happens.
Now my question is; Why would the Son of God, or God, if your Christian theology believes Jesus is God, make such a statement, knowing full well that some 2000 years later, he still wouldn’t be showing up?
Did Jesus not know that making a statement that implies that “This Generation will still be alive when this happens” would Confuse Billions of his loyal followers, and lead many of them to an untimely death at worse, or a difficult economic life at the least.
Jesus is suppose to be all knowing-all powerful. Yet the fact that He could not perceive the damage that this one verse would cause to his followers as Century after Century, Millennium, after Millennium would come and go, causing tremendous amount of disappointment to Billions of his loyal followers, either proves that He’s not as wise a people believe, or He doesn’t have the power to predict what the future holds for his worshipers, or He doesn’t care what happens to his loyal followers.
Proverbs 13:12 Delayed hope makes the heart sick, but fulfilled desire is a tree of life.
If anything this verse in the bible has cause,…... it’s that a lot of Christians went from being Christian to being Atheist.
But it’s not just Jesus’s words about the generation that would not pass. It’s the entire Christian Greek Scriptures are riddled with implications that can be interpreted by every generation that ‘Their Generation’ is the one that will witness the Last days.
And when the Last days never comes, Husbands, Mothers and children are left with a broken heart, as they watch their loved ones get old, sickly, and finally die.
1 John 2:18 Children, it is the last hour;
1 Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith,
1 Peter 4:7 The end of all things is near;
2 Peter 3:3 in the last days mockers will come with their mocking,
Jude 1:18 “In the last times people who ridicule God will appear.
Sprinkling incense back in the early days of Christianity was their 1975.
So if you think 1975 messed up your life economically, Imagine the early Christian Mother living under the Roman authority, who refused to sprinkle some incense over a fire as a sign of loyalty to the State. This refusal was seen as a challenge to the authority of the state and in many cases led to not only this Christian Mother’s execution in a horrible way, but many Christian Mothers, and Fathers and Children who were under the Christian indoctrination, met an early demise. Usually they were thrown to the lions as spectators rallied at the sport.
Thus leaving Husbands, Mothers and children with a broken heart, and having to fend for themselves.
What bible verse told the early Christians they shouldn’t sprinkle incense over the fire because God said it meant Worship of a Human? There is no verse condemning sprinkling incense. It was an interpretation by Christian Elders or whatever they were called back then. Many Christians died because of this interpretation by “Humans”
Imagine if you were born back then instead of our time. And You were married to a wonderful woman. A great mother to your four children. But indoctrinated into this bible interpretation theology. And she was put into a situation where she was asked to sprinkle a pinch of incense to show loyalty to the State, but the Congregation elders or some type of Governing Body back then told her she couldn’t do that because it would displease Jehovah, and because of the indoctrination into this Christian theology, she listened to the elders and refused sprinkling incense, and was thrown into the lions……...How Would You feel?
I’ve see this happen to may JW in our modern times. The husband wakes up, the wife believes he has become apostate, and the elders encourage Her to leave him, she leaves him, the family is broken up, the children had no full-time father anymore. Eventually the husband meets another woman who is not a jw, marries her and moves far away. Leaving his former wife who stays single for the rest of her life, struggling financially and being lonely and depressed because the Bible is a book that has been used for millenniums, to confuse and misdirect “Good” people whose only desire is to be a good person.
The Governing Body is just part of a long list of idiotic humans who have used a book that is so contradictory, that anyone can interpret any verse in a way that will misdirect a person to their eventual demise.
If there was no Bible, there would have never been a 1975.
Never a No Blood Doctrine, No disfellowshipping, No shunning, no judicial committees where the least knowledgeable men are judge, jury, and executioner.
And….No one would have spent 60 years of their life serving 11 old men in New York, most of whom they have never met. Old men who are so delusional that they believe they are going to rule not just the earth, but the entire Universe as Kings forever and ever.
And on top of that. Stephen Lett reveled a few years ago, that they will also be able to resurrect the dead. …….You can’t get any more delusional than that.
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peacefulpete
Do not look for a wife.....What I am saying, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they had none; ..... For this world in its present form is passing away.
The writer of 1 Cor.7 was certainly responsible for many people needlessly forestalling marriage and children.
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3rdgen
With "Born Ins" the older you are when you leave, the more of your life you have wasted.
I first learned this when I left my 30 year long 1st marriage. From the age of 17 -47 I loved and trusted that man until I found out he was living a double life the ENTIRE time!
Then, at age 60 I realized my Religion was rotten from the top down. That's a lot of past down the drain. It is not worry I feel. It is frustration with myself for having blind trust in people and a corporation disguised as a religion. Aggravated that I made the choice to ignore the MANY red flags I saw all along.
I agree that Bitterness only hurts the bitter person, so I chose to be thankful that Baalam'sAss and I at least will not spend our last days/years stuck in a cult or a terrible marriage.
The only thing worse than being clueless for 60 years is being clueless 60 years and one day.
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liam
1 Cor.7 Do not look for a wife.....What I am saying, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they had none; ..... For this world in its present form is passing away.
I wonder how many young men and women followed this counsel, only to get old and finally realized that the "Time is short- this world is passing away" '''''Godly Counsel ........was all a lie, made up, Not by God, but by HUMANS?
Reminds me of the 1969 Awake posted on the internet for all to see and be warned.
Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not?
Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.
Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone!
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TonusOH
3rdgen: The only thing worse than being clueless for 60 years is being clueless 60 years and one day.
~45ish years here.
I am reminded of a blog I read many years ago. It was written by a woman who was building wealth through investing. When someone asked whether it was too late to start investing at a certain age, her reply was "you'll never be as young as you are today."
Every moment that we spend not building towards the life we want, is another day wasted. So, we may as well start.
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stan livedeath
i'm the lucky one. I pioneered in my teens--became a servant--did public talks home and away. Then i " saw the light" in my early 20s--and resigned--i laughed at the looming 1975 farce.
Now 50 years later i'm still laughing .
Ive been atheist all that time and regard jehovahs witnesses as just another crackpot American cult.
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144thousand_and_one
As a born-in, I was there too. I can recall that they not only predicted the year, but also the month: October. It was stated from the platform at our hall. When it didn't happen, they lied and said they had never said that Armageddon was coming in 1975.
As a young kid, that prophesy was traumatic to me. They always wanted to let everyone know that folks were not doing enough for the Watchtower, and those who didn't do enough would not make it into the "new system." I felt like I wasn't good enough to make it.
Several families in our congregation sold their houses to live off the proceeds so that they could do full-time "witnessing" prior to the "end."
Although my parents were devout believers, I began my departure at age 14 and was completely out by age 15. I was never baptized. My parents had a rough time with me in my teen years. They were happy I didn't end up in prison.