by waton 88 Replies latest social current
good for establish in whether other military campaigns were earlier or later.
Magnetic pointing.
Funny and Ironic how the word “pointed”occurs twice in God’s Word and both refer to military campaigns against Jerusalem. Once when the king of Babylon used uncanny power and God caused it to point to Jerusalem in 607 and 2 when Jesus prophesied about a fortification of pointed stakes that the Romans would build around Jerusalem in 70. Eze 21:22, Lu 19:43
Whilst it is true that the intensity of some of the archaeomagnetic levels used as anchors does not conclusively invalidate the dating offered by the Watch Tower Society, the dating for Beth-Shean does. The study says that event occurred around 900 BCE, but that would be 968 in Watch Tower Society chronology. Note that the levels that would be required for the Watch Tower Society's reckoning of the Tevet VII, Rehov V and Beth-Shean events fall well outside the higher band (yellowish shading) of the archaeomagnetic levels at that time.
….Even the word apPOINTED times of the nations aka Gentiles Times(as JW see it) deals with war in the heavens and end of trampling Jerusalem.. Compared to magnetic pointing.
Jeffro, your case is well-presented but the destruction of Beth-Shean is not related to the destruction of Gath in 830.
Archaeomagnetic results indicate that Beth-Shean was probably destroyed at the same time as Tevet VII and Rehov V, not Gath. The fact that Shoshenq depicted Rehov and Beth-Shean side by side as prisoners of war in his Triumphal Relief at Karnak (Egypt), shows they were both destroyed in his campaigns.
When was that? None of those are historically dated chronological anchors in the study, but radiocarbon dating indicates Rehov V was destroyed by fire in the late tenth to early ninth century, possibly ca.900 BCE. Based on this dating, the study concludes:
Archaeomagnetic dating of Beth-Shean shows that at a 95% confidence level the destruction occurred before ca. 880 BCE and at a 68% confidence level it occurred before ca. 900 BCE.
Which means it definitely wasn’t in 993 BCE, which remains incompatible with the archaeomagnetic intensity data. 🤦♂️
Archaeomagnetic data says nothing about the date in itself, but can be used for establishing whether destruction events happened at the same time.
So rather than appealing to archaeomagnetic data, it would be more to the point to argue that 993 BCE is incompatible with radiocarbon dating of Rehov V to ca. 900 BCE. Good argument, but radiocarbon dating does not give you a specific year, but a range of years. A range of radiocarbon dates for the destruction of Rehov V below is taken from the Supplementary Material for the article 14C dates from Tel Rehov: Iron-Age chronology, pharaohs, and Hebrew kings (Science 300, 315–318 (2003)).
If you haven't done it yet, I suggest you read The Gentile Times Reconsidered by Carl Olof Jonsson. It's really some piece of heavy, profound and precise reading! But I'm sure that those JW defenders here won't bother reading such stuff because the book is about 400 pages that destroy all JW lies! Oh! I forgot, they won't read it because it was written by an apostate who must be shunned because he found out the truth about 1914 and shared that info with the GB in first place. Go figure out why they did that?!
I keep asking this question when this topic comes up: Why does it matter when Jerusalem fell?
1914 is not based on the fall of Jerusalem. Just because Nelson Barbour thought it had to, does not mean that Jehovah God thought it did.
The problem is that people rely on books like 'the Gentile Times Reconsidered" and are just as lost Rutherford, Russell and Barbour. Carl Olof just wrote it to argue against the Watchtower Society because he is so arrogant. He didn't write it to find the fulfillment of Nathan's prophesy to David to find when Jesus would become king.
Earnest:
Archaeomagnetic data says nothing about the date in itself, but can be used for establishing whether destruction events happened at the same time.
Incorrect. The study applied the use of archaeomagnetic intensity data and other data to correlate the timing of burn sites, and that method does not establish the date itself. But the archaeomagnetic intensity data itself - represented by the shaded curving band in the graph - does invalidate 993 as a valid date for the destruction of Beth-Shean. Of course, I don’t need to rely on that fact though, because all the other evidence already establishes that the Watch Tower Society chronology is wrong.
Rattigan350:
It is more correctly based on an incorrect date assigned to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians in addition to other superstitious numerology.1914 is not based on the fall of Jerusalem.
Just because Nelson Barbour thought it had to, does not mean that Jehovah God thought it did.
🤦♂️ So you just need to establish that your preferred deity exists and that anything you claim about it is actually true. I think all of your work is still in front of you. 😂
