Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - WT buildings in Brooklyn shown in clip

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  • Scully

    See the video clip, at approx 2:55 in this segment:

    I don't know what it means that Donald Trump's son-in-law's father (Charles Kushner) bought those buildings, but thought it was interesting.

  • Finkelstein

    Doesn't mean anything, he just bought some buildings that were up for sale ????

  • Giordano

    The WT couldn't have sold their building to a better person.....not.

    The father went to jail after Chris Christie prosecuted him:

    Criminal conviction[edit]

    In the summer of 2004, Kushner was fined $508,900 by the Federal Election Commission for contributing to political campaigns in the names of his partnerships when he lacked authorization to do so.[8] In 2005, following an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Jersey,[9] U.S. Attorney Chris Christie negotiated a plea agreement with Kushner, under which he pleaded guilty to 18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering.[10] The witness-tampering charge arose from Kushner's act of retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther's husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators; Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record an encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister.[11][12][13][14] Kushner was sentenced to two years in prison[11] and served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery in Alabama[15][16] before being sent to a halfway house in Newark, New Jersey to complete his sentence.[15][16][17] He was released from prison on August 25, 2006.[18]

    As a result of his convictions, Kushner was disbarred from practicing law in New Jersey,[19] New York,[20] and Pennsylvania.[21]

  • Finkelstein

    The corruption of the Watchtower Publishing house was bought and taken over by another known identity of corruption...... ummmmm makes sense

  • blondie

    Giordano, that is very interesting...explains a few things.

  • Scully


    You're right: in the big scheme of things money and property changing hands is really not a big deal. But, from the perspective of a JW who believes their Organization™ is above all reproach, and would *never* take money from anyone whose values didn't mesh with their published values, it is a pretty interesting scenario.

    After all, if you can be DFd and labelled as corrupt beyond redemption for smoking or using the swimming pool at the YMCA or buying a lottery ticket or accepting a bribe or selling cigarettes in your corner store, how can they justify selling their property to someone with such a corrupt history? Could it be that they are party to a money-laundering scheme?

    All I'm suggesting is that this transaction could possibly raise some eyebrows and maybe even open some eyes among some JWs and cause them to investigate other scandals within the Organization™, such as the ARC and other sexual abuse scandals, the UN Library Card scandal, the stocks held in trust that brought them dividends from Phillip Morris (tobacco products) and so on.

    The WT has a lot of do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do rules, but the one that comes to mind is related to "a little leaven (corruption) ferments the whole loaf (renders the entire [whatever] corrupt)" Gal 5:9. Individual JWs are expected to aspire to the most stringent and rigorous standards in their day-to-day lives, yet the Organization™ itself just does whatever it wants in order to further its own aims. Also recall the story of Jesus throwing the money changers out of the temple, due to their corruption, and defiling their Holy Place with usury.

    I think it might be an interesting episode to share with JW family members (with full disclosure that John Oliver has a potty mouth and isn't afraid to use it).

  • Finkelstein

    When is comes to money $$$ the JWS are known to show apathetic indifference.

    To note the WTS heads may not have known about Jared Kushner's father.

  • Scully

    Not knowing, apparently, is not a good enough excuse according to the law, and especially not according to WT.

    Surely their massive legal team did their due diligence in researching the source of the money??

  • Finkelstein

    Keep in mind though Scully that it was his father that was charged with his misdeeds, not Jared.

  • Spiral

    Hi Scully,

    I brought it up once (I was also contemplating this whole scenario), and no one in JW land knew. They only believe what they see on JW broadcasting. Same for Russia vs. nothing on Australia. If it's not on JW broadcasting it doesn't exist.

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