A request to our members living in the USA - Time Magazine

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  • pale.emperor

    I have a request to our friends living in the USA. Im trying to track down an article printed by Time Magazine in which they interviewed Fred Franz. In my local library here in Liverpool they have a massive bound volume collection of Time going back to the 1930s. Unfortunately, they're the European edition and not the US version which were different.

    The magazine im looking for is dated July 11, 1977. If anyone could check if their library has this edition, and if possible make a scan or take a photo and upload it here i'd be very grateful.

    They printed one in Feb. 22 1982 Religion: Witness Under Prosecution and discusses Ray Franz and his shunning from the WT Society. A scan is here:

    Or click here if you cant read it: http://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/wp-content/uploads/FB_IMG_1483755519623-1.jpg

  • StoneWall

    Just wondering if you searched under Time Magazine articles Archive
    Here is what popped up when I did and it says it goes back to 1923 and says complete.coverage if I read it correctly. Hope this helps

    The TIME Magazine Vault

    Check out the online archives of TIME Magazine: complete coverage since 1923 of ... Library, goes to Sandymount beach to take the air," the article summed up.
  • tiki

    I remember when that came out.....it was viewed as so so scandalous....he was viewed as a psycopathic liar with a vendetta...demon possessed of course. If only I knew then what I know now.....

  • pale.emperor

    Thanks StoneWall. The first snippet of the article is here: http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,919076,00.html

    Looks like im gonna have to subscribe to read it.

  • darkspilver

    Looks like im gonna have to subscribe to read it.

    Or maybe just buy an ORIGINAL copy from the USA?


  • Phizzy

    The article you show with the Pic is about Ray Franz ,and the Time magazine interview with Ray was around 1981/2 if I recall.

    I did not know Time had interviewed Ray's Uncle Fred in'77 . Interesting.

  • DesirousOfChange

    Another interesting article is in Newsweek Mag, Dec 18, 1995 ~

    "Apocalypse Later -- Jehovah's Witnesses decide the end if fluid"

  • mentalclarity

    The End Is Near (Contd.)

    His plain, ninth-floor Brooklyn office is painted in institutional green and has no air conditioning to reduce the summer heat. He gets a free one-room apartment and meals in the huge dining hall downstairs, plus the same $20 monthly stipend that the janitors get. He has been his religion's most important theologian for decades, but no one is allowed to know just which books or articles he has worked on. Though few people know his name, he has acquired more-than-papal power over 2.2 million souls around the world.

    He is Frederick Franz, a short and spry 83, who on June 22 quietly succeeded the late Nathan Knorr to become the fourth leader of the Jehovah's Witnesses. For a century now, this most contentious of faiths has pressed upon an unwilling audience the message that mankind is nearing the End. Franz, a bachelor who has labored in the sect's headquarters since 1920, will not be surprised if he lives to see the destruction of the world's political order in the Battle of Armageddon, which will usher in Christ's 1,000-year reign.

    Franz was planning on a career as a Presbyterian minister in 1913 when his brother sent him some tracts from the Watch Tower Society. He soon decided that the Watch Tower offered the one true interpretation of the Bible. The next year he dropped out of the University of Cincinnati without completing his junior year; he saw no sense in remaining because the movement's founder, Charles Taze Russell, had announced Oct. 1, 1914, as the date for Christ's Second Coming. Franz recalls with a wisp of a smile: "We expected the end of this system of things, that God's kingdom would take over the earth and that we would be glorified in heaven."

    Russell's successor, Lawyer Joseph Rutherford, later explained that the "last days" had indeed begun in 1914, but that Christ's rule had been established only in heaven, and that his Second Coming had occurred, but as a spiritual event. Because Satan still runs the earth, the Witnesses persistently refuse to serve in any army or to salute any flag —even if they must go to jail.

    Rutherford's rallying cry became "Millions now living will never die!" By 1968, the sect's magazine, Awake!, was proclaiming a new date for Armageddon: "Today we have the evidence required, all of it. And it is overwhelming! All the many, many parts of the great sign of the 'last days' are here, together with verifying Bible chronology." That complex chronology ran like this: Adam was created in the autumn of 4026 B.C., which meant that 6,000 years of human existence would end in late 1975. The 6,000 years would be followed by the Millennium, 1,000 years of "Sabbathlike rest," just as God rested after six days of Creation and established the Sabbath.

    Asked about 1975, Franz now says that the 6,000-year chronology is correct, but the seventh day of Creation did not begin until Eve was created. Thus the date for the End has to be extended by the amount of time between the advent of Adam and of Eve—an interval not yet revealed (previous Witness publications had stated that Adam and Eve were created in the same year).

    Publicity about the Witnesses usually emphasizes their phenomenal success at recruiting. Most of the movement's energies are poured into proselytizing. For each of the 196,656 people baptized last year, the Witnesses conducted 740 visits to people's homes and distributed 1,650 copies of their various books and magazines. The other side of the story is that the Witnesses suffer more back-door losses than other groups. Analysis of the sect's own reports indicates that 335,000 people have left the Witnesses since 1972. And since the End mysteriously failed to materialize in 1975, the number of new Witnesses being baptized has suddenly dropped by a third.

  • mentalclarity

    Was that what you were looking for @pale.emperor?

  • pale.emperor

    Thanks Mental Clarity! That's fantastic!!

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