Bewildering Background revealing who stopped slavery in the world

by Terry 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • Terry

    Bewildering Background

    Even among the greatest religious thinkers and moral philosophers of civilizations around the world for 1000’s of years SLAVERY was NOT considered a moral issue.

    Only ONE civilization developed a “moral revulsion” against it very late in its history:
    Western Civilization.

    Abraham Lincoln said:
    If slavery is not considered wrong; nothing can be considered as wrong.

    But WHY did not even the leading moralists among other nations and civilizations reject slavery at all?

    There is no evidence that slavery came under attack in any other part of the world before the 18th century. (In Europe).
    What irony! The leading western slave traders became the leading advocates for the abolition of slavery!

    Who objected to ending slavery? Africans, Arabs, Asians and other non-Westerners.

    Prepare to be Surprised...

    In the Western part of civilization, it was conservative religious activists who spoke out in earnest.
    (People of the “religious Right” as would be said today.)
    This history would NOT be considered politically correct to speak of aloud in today’s climate of discord. In fact, it is ignored.

    Slavery did not die out quietly. No no no.
    There was fighting to the bitter end.

    Pro-slavery lost only because Europeans had gunpowder to back up the embargo on transport of slaves.
    Yes - men with guns stopped slavery.

    It may sound like propaganda - but the historical facts are clear enough.
    It should make us gasp with disbelief that the fact remains, it was Imperialism with its colonization and military law which began driving out slave traders!

    Ever heard that before? No, didn't think so

    It was the British who stamped out Slavery throughout the Empire.
    (Which included ¼ of the world!)
    Pressures and actions against other nations strangled the slave trade over time.

    The British navy destroyed the ships of anyone transporting slaves.
    The British government pressured the Ottoman Empire to end its slave trade in Africa.

    America stamped out slavery in the Philippines. The Dutch stamped it out in Indonesia.
    The Russians in Central Asia and the French in Caribbean colonies.
    Germans in East Africa hanged slave traders on the spot; summary executions.

    Repeat: no NON-WESTERN nation shared this animosity to slavery which began to develop in the Western world in the late 18th century.

    This continued without pause up through the 20th century.

    It took this long (over a century) because the NON-WESTERN nations bitterly resisted.

    Non-Westerners found the arguments against slavery to be incomprehensible inasmuch as the slave trade went as far back as human memory.

    This was viewed as an assault on their economy.
    Indeed, this was the same argument the Bible belt agricultural labor states raised before the Civil War in the United States.

    New American Standard Bible
    Ephesians 6:5-8
    5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;
    6 not by way of eye-service, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.
    7 With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men,
    8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free.



    Think of how many ironies are found stacked one upon the other.
    Religion was not against slavery.
    Philosophy was not against slavery.
    Non-white nations were not against slavery.

    Slavery was slowly extinguished by Imperialists using military force!
    In America, after the Civil War,
    It took roughly 100 years for Equal rights laws to begin to turn the tide in the U.S.

    "In 1964, on the floor of the U.S. Senate, Democrats held the longest filibuster in our nation’s history, 60 days. All trying to prevent the passing of one thing. The Civil Rights Act."

    (Russell Long of Louisiana, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, Herman Talmadge of Georgia, John McClellan of Arkansas and Richard Russell of Georgia.) There should be a distinction made in exactly who was blocking the bill. The majority of Democrats who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act were from Southern states; some Democrats in non-Southern states did support the bill.


    All people of all colors in all nations from time immemorial
    engaged in slavery until about 1800 years after the birth of Christ when - who? The people you'd least expect to oppose slavery began a 200 years push to end it (being fought every step of the way.)

    Never before in history has race relations been so badly distorted as in 2020.

    Taking the time to look back on how progress has been made (and by whom) is absolutely necessary to our generation.
    Together we solve problems through cooperation - not through propaganda.

    All the above is distilled from the writings of Thomas Sowell

  • pistolpete

    "In 1964, on the floor of the U.S. Senate, Democrats held the longest filibuster in our nation’s history, 60 days. All trying to prevent the passing of one thing. The Civil Rights Act."

    Fuc*ing Democrats!

  • Vidqun

    The American Civil War was about the abolishment of the slave trade. Those for the abolishment: The Republicans. Those against: The Democrats. I find that quite ironic. Perhaps all these BLM people should study history. They might just learn something.

  • Simon

    The "Restoration" PBS series is interesting and informative. It's about the years after the American civil war that I suspect many don't know much about, when the Republicans were far too forgiving and allowed the myth of the South to be created and the abuse of blacks be re-enacted by them in new ways.

    The people who fought to end slavery and sacrificed so much, both black and white, were badly let down.

    It was the democrats AGAIN who did it all. The vile left just can't help but be their true racist selves whenever they get the chance.

  • Sigfrid Mallozzi
    Sigfrid Mallozzi

    Slavery still exists today in the world and is called "Human Trafficking".

  • Terry

    When you start sorting out what you've always "heard" as true from the facts -
    it's pretty much exactly like a JW finding out the Governing Body is nothing but a collection of ass-holey-ness.

  • Bill Covert
    Bill Covert

    Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Justice Clarence Thomas, all three expound on the exact same theme as to the dismal state of race relations to day, the liberal "Great Society" of Lynden Johnson. They take the position that the civil rights legislation was much needed but they all three take the position that the welfare system introduced in the "Great Society" part was the bed rock for todays inability for young blacks to lead productive lives [not much different for young whites].

    Sowell and Williams both said there is only one other POTUS they refused besides Trump to watch on TV which was Obama.

    PBS had a special on Justice Thomas and I got to YouTubing Sowell [i enjoyed his column several years ago in local paper] and Williams. I learned a lot.

    Probably old hat for this site but for any not familure of the history of the hymn "Amazing Grace" it is a interesting read.

    Good post.

  • apostatethunder

    I'm afraid Thomas Sowell had the wrong information. Slavery was forbidden in the 16th Century by Catholic Spain.

    Not sure what happened afterwards or why there are more slaves nowadays than ever before in history.

    Maybe we should ask Thomas Sowell.

  • Terry

    I'm afraid Thomas Sowell had the wrong information. Slavery was forbidden in the 16th Century by Catholic Spain.
    Not sure what you are referencing here.

    Political attitudes toward slavery and Catholic hierarchy attitudes were intertwined.
    The Church was only interested in converts ultimately and, of course, tithes.
    But it would be a tawdry Church which would condone ill-treatment. Therefore - what could be said to give the proper appearance of Christian mercy?

    The 1513 Spanish REQUERIMIENTO was a legalistic proclamation supposed to be read to local populations in the New World, demanding that the local populations convert to Roman Catholicism, on pain of slavery or death, and intended to give legal color to the actions of the Spanish.

    The Pope in 1639 (Pope Urban VIII) was a hypocrite.
    He officially forbade the slavery of the native Indians of Brazil, Paraguay, and the West Indies, yet he purchased non-Indian slaves for himself from the so-called Knights of Malta as slaves and rowers for the Papal galleys.

    Earlier, Pope Paul III, issued a lengthy Papal Bull decrying depriving Indians of their Freedom - however - an annulment of this proclamation came about because the Royal family of Spain grew very angry concerning loss of revenue (which would mean the Church's share would be dismal as well.)

    From time to time The Church would make a fuss about any enslaved Catholic converts to the tune of "We demand reparations" (i.e. $$$).

    In 1545, Pope Paul III repealed an ancient law that allowed slaves to claim their freedom under the Emperor's statue on Capitol Hill, in view of the number of homeless people and tramps in the city of Rome.

    Jesuits were off-the-chain in regards to the Church at large, ultimately leading to their suppression. These priests were viewed as radicals, even going so far as to provide arms to the natives and joined in pitched battles against slave hunters. This resulted in the suppression of the order in Spain in 1767.

    Thomas Sowell's words about opposition to slavery is framed in the context of "civilizations" rather than a hit-and-miss flame up by this or that faction in Church or politics.

  • apostatethunder


    We are talking about the world in the 16th Century. Not sure what were protestant countries in Feudal Europe doing against slavery at the time. All we know is that slavery is very much alive in the 21st Century.

    Jesuits were also a Spanish Catholic Order that nowadays have been replaced by the Opus Dei, which looks more like a protestant joke than anything else.

    And no need to get so heat up about the Spanish being the first to do something against slavery. Americans can actually be the ones freeing the world from it once and for all. Hopefully this time for real.

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