I remember in past conventions, years ago, talks dealing with what happens when one is disfellowshipped. The talks mentioned that not only is a person df'd. from the congregation/organization but they are df'd in heaven as well. Have any of you who have been df'd been told this at your JC meetings? And how did you feel about it? Did you beleive you were df'd in heaven as well?
Disfellowshipped: Did you believe you were d'fd in heaven too?
by Flowerpetal 4 Replies latest jw friends
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blondie
Maybe they are misapplying Matthew 18:18-20 and Matthew 16:19.
Matthew 18:18-20
18 "Truly I say to YOU men, Whatever things YOU may bind on earth will be things bound in heaven, and whatever things YOU may loose on earth will be things loosed in heaven. 19 Again I truly say to YOU , If two of YOU on earth agree concerning anything of importance that they should request, it will take place for them due to my Father in heaven. 20 For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst."Matthew 16:19
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will be the thing bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loose on earth will be the thing loosed in the heavens." -
Flowerpetal
Hi Blondie,
I'm sure they were misapplying those scriptures.
I remember a drama that was presented years ago about what would happen to those who broke the Mosaic Law in ancient Israel. They were stoned to death. After the drama, the speaker came on and talked about while we are not under the Mosaic Law, the principle still applied; perhaps those who were stoned, might not have a resurrection because by their deaths they were being permanently put out of "God's organization". As if God was done with them.
He alluded that those who get disfellowshipped, while not losing their lives by stoning, wouldn't survive Armageddon unless they repented and returned to the cong/.org., giving the impression that when the cong. forgives them, via the elders, they may be accepted back in, (reinstated) but who knows whether or not they were reinstated in heaven. Thus sort of putting a scare into wrongdoing.
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czarofmischief
Sort of. I thought God wasn't happy with me. I couldn't imagine worshipping him without a borg telling me how.
And gradually I came to realize and believe that when the congregation dfed me, it set me free to worship God and know him personally.
CZAR
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Nosferatu
No, I figued Jehovah would erase my name in his little black book. Anyone remember that stupid analogy, where Jehovah writes your name down IN PENCIL?