New definition of lying

by I am a Bible Student 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • I am a Bible Student
    I am a Bible Student

    The Watchtower no 1 for 2016, entitled 'Why be honest', has this definition of lying on page 5:

    "Saying something false to someone who is entitled to know the truth."

    So if I tell my husband an untruth, i.e. I didn't buy that dress whereas I did buy it, it would be a lie as he is entitled to know where it came from especially if it was his money. But I could tell someone else I didn't buy that dress whereas I did buy it, and it would NOT be a lie as they were not entitled to know where it came from. Same dress, same words but one is a lie and the other isn't a lie depending on whom I tell it to.

    So that is how the organization justifies certain things they do. We publishers are told that no known pedophile may have responsibilities in the congregation and that isn't a lie since we are not entitled to know the truth, being only publishers. And the Royal Commission is not entitled to know the inner workings of the organization, so any untruths told to them were not untruths at all as per the above definition.

  • coalize
    Oh my god... they dare!
  • sir82
    It's not new, it has been their official position since at least the 1950's, probably earlier.
  • coalize
    I never heard about that before....
  • cyberjesus

    You didnt know it cuz you were not entitled to know it yet.

    Therefore you were not ignorant

  • nicolaou
    That's a lie.
  • WasOnceBlind
    I find this pretty interesting. Could we argue that Adam and Eve were not entitled to know the truth therefore the snake never lied to them? (assuming you believe the story).
  • freemindfade

    Classic watchtower

    attach little qualifiers in there that to the open minded are obvious and never seen by the cult mind.

  • DesirousOfChange

    I would think it would set off alarm bells to many people (even the indoctrinated). Most parents stress NOT LYING to their kids, or if nothing else, NOT LYING to them -- they are there to back up their kid if he/she is in trouble. (Like not lying to your lawyer.)

    Anyone who has had their spouse cheat on them, should cringe when they read this. (Is my wife really entitled to know?)

    I realize most will nod along like a bubble-head doll.

    Some will think it's just strategy against Satan's World.

    But surely some will feel uncomfortable about that definition. (I hope.)

    But of course all of this assumes they are a JW who reads their WT. (You know what they say about ASSUME.)


  • wifibandit

    *** it-2 244-5 Lie *** LIE

    The opposite of truth. Lying generally involves saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth and doing so with the intent to deceive or to injure him or another person. A lie need not always be verbal. It can also be expressed in action, that is, a person may be living a lie... While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it.

    *** w60 6/1 351 Questions from Readers ***

    From time to time letters are received asking whether a certain circumstance would justify making an exception to the Christian's obligation to tell the truth. In reply to these the following is given: God's Word commands: "Speak truth each of you with his neighbor." (Eph. 4:25) This command, however, does not mean that we should tell everyone who asks us all he wants to know. We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if one is not so entitled we may be evasive ... As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God's foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God's cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God's enemies.

    *** Watchtower 1957 May 1 p285, 286 Use Theocratic War Strategy ***

    A WITNESS of Jehovah was going from house to house in Eastern Germany when she met a violent opposer. Knowing at once what to expect she changed her red blouse for a green one in the very next hallway. No sooner had she appeared on the street than a Communist officer asked her if she had seen a woman with a red blouse. No, she replied, and went on her way. Did she tell a lie? No, she did not. . She was not a liar. Rather, she was using theocratic war strategy, hiding the truth by action and word for the sake of the ministry.

    In this she had good Scriptural precedent. Did not Rahab hide the Israelite spies by both action and word? Did not Abraham, Isaac, David and others likewise hide the truth at times when faced with a hostile enemy? They certainly did, and never do we read a word of censure for their doing so. Rather, we read of their being termed exemplary servants of Jehovah. Their actions were in line with Jesus' wise counsel: "Look! I am sending you forth as sheep amidst wolves; therefore prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves."-Matt. 10:16, NW.

    Perhaps some will wonder as to where the line is to be drawn between use of theocratic war strategy in hiding the truth and the telling of lies. First of all, let it be noted that whenever one takes an oath to tell the truth he is obligated to do so. By dedicating himself to do God's will each Christian has taken a vow or made an oath to do God's will and to be faithful to him. To this oath he certainly must be true. Likewise, when a Christian is placed on a witness stand he is obligated to speak the truth if he speaks at all. At times he may prefer to refuse to speak and suffer the consequences rather than betray his brothers or the interests of God's work. And, of course, there is no occasion for use of war strategy when dealing with our Christian brothers. In dealing with them we tell the truth or tactfully remind them that what they seek to know does not concern them.

    Lies are untruths told for selfish reasons and which work injury to others. Satan told a lie to Eve that worked great harm to her and all the human race. Ananias and Sapphira told lies for selfish reasons. But hiding the truth, which he is not entitled to know, from an enemy does not harm him, especially when he would use such information to harm others who are innocent.

    A great work is being done by the witnesses even in lands where their activity is banned. The only way they can fulfill the command to preach the good news of God's kingdom is by use of theocratic war strategy. By underground methods the literature is brought into the country and distributed. Would it make sense to hide this literature by one's actions and then reveal its whereabouts by one's words when queried? Of course not! So in time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. It is done unselfishly; it does not harm anyone; on the contrary, it does much good.

    Today God's servants are engaged in a warfare, a spiritual, theocratic warfare, a warfare ordered by God against wicked spirit forces and against false teachings. God's servants are sent forth as sheep among wolves and therefore need to exercise the extreme caution of serpents so as to protect properly the interests of God's kingdom committed to them. At all times they must be very careful not to divulge any information to the enemy that he could use to hamper the preaching work.

    Awake! 2000 February 8th, Page 21

    Of course, being truthful does not mean that we are obligated to divulge all information to anyone who asks it of us. Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never ... turn around and rip you open, warned Jesus, at Matthew 7:6. For example, individuals with wicked intent may have no right to know certain things. Christians understand that they are living in a hostile world. Thus, Jesus advised his disciples to be cautious as serpents while remaining innocent as doves. (Matthew 10:16; John 15:19) Jesus did not always disclose the full truth, especially when revealing all the facts could have brought unnecessary harm to himself or his disciples. Still, even at such times, he did not lie. Instead, he chose either to say nothing or to divert the conversation in another direction.

    wp16 No. 1 pp. 4-5 How Dishonesty Affects You


    WHAT IS IT? Saying something false to someone who is entitled to know the truth.

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