VE Day (victory in Europe) and the Generation.

by Slidin Fast 10 Replies latest jw friends

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  Slidin Fast

  I am watching the celebrations of the 80th anniversary of VE Day. 80 years since the defeat of Nazi Germany in 1945. I find the interviews of the stalwart men and women who played their part very moving. These veterans speak with pride and sadness about their experiences, those they lost, those they fought alongside. They are all now in their late 90s. Permission to start the parade is being given by a man 101 years of age.

  Whilst I watch I reflect on the ridiculous notion that somehow the generation of 1914 in whatever form you choose is still going strong. How does anyone still believe this nonsense?
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  Biahi

  Overlapping! 😂😂😂
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  Slidin Fast

  Head slapping!
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  TD

  In a similar vein, it's been nearly, 90 years since that generation was stood up at a convention and told clearly and unequivocally that they were the "Great Crowd" of Revelation.

  --And yet the JW's still call this a "bright flash of light". and no one (apparently) can see the problem here.
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  joey jojo

  There is an Australian song called 'The band played Waltzing Matilda' , written in 1980 about the world war 1 generation.

  One of the lines is poignant and I think of it every year the commemorations roll around, in particular because I grew up as a JW. For reference, the last known veteran of WW1 died in 2012.

  'And the band played Waltzing Matilda

  As the old men still answer the call

  But as year follow year, more old men disappear

  Someday no-one will march here at all.'

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufxRotL6uns&list=RDufxRotL6uns&index=1
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  Slidin Fast

  Yes, I think that it's the contrast between these humble elderly people that stood up and "did their bit" heroically. Somehow the contrast between them, and GB#2 makes me feel nauseous.

  On one side we have a tiny number of these people remembering the past with pride and sorrow and facing the future with dignity. On the other we have a self aggrandising, self appointed group of imposters somehow claiming to be the former.

  Dudes, you don't deserve to breathe the same air.
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  Anony Mous

  The people from that era have all but left, truly, I’ve been out for going on 14 years, and year over year, I hear less and less about the people that once were there. Even people you thought would’ve never given up, elders, Bethelites, I heard about one person I knew that just stopped going after his wife died, at age 92, he now waits to die because he went to Bethel at 17 and now sits in a 1-bedroom welfare apartment. Waste of life, lost his kids because he didn’t talk to them after they left. Of all the peoples I heard of, if they haven’t died yet, they’ve gone with the exception of 1 or 2 families. One popped up in the papers the other day, for having a meth lab in his shed.

  The problem off course is that they somehow snag younger people, a different message, a different group but this generation does not remember the last, does not know or remember the promises. I don’t believe JW today are the same JW I grew up with, in a sense us apostates won, they moderated significantly, but in a sense we lost because our stories no longer match their reality.

  The tales of ‘75 have gone; the generation lines redrawn; the truth rewritten and with regret; the past becomes a silhouette.
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  joey jojo

  The problem off course is that they somehow snag younger people, a different message, a different group but this generation does not remember the last, does not know or remember the promises.

  The memories of the older generations are very inconvenient for the GB, so they try their best to obfuscate them.
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  LongHairGal

  JOEY JO JO:

  I seem to remember the song “Waltzing Mathilda” from when I was a child - and that was way before 1980. Just sayin’.

  If somebody did a redo at a later date, I am unaware of it.

  Also, it’s true that the memories of the older generations are inconvenient for the Jehovah’s Witness religion.. They are embarrassed about anybody who lived through a time of one of their failed prophecies!
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  liam

  All I can say is that it's SAD, that we as humans only live about 80 years and that's it.

  Such a short life span doesn't allow us to gain much knowledge and use it to our advantage.

  Imagine if we lived several millenniums before we started getting grey hair or wrinkles.

  Organizations like the Watchtower wouldn't be able to scam younger generations.

  We wouldn't have to worry about retirement.

  I don't think religion would exist.

  And you could be with the one you love for thousands of years instead of a measly 50 or so years.
  

  But I guess that only happens somewhere over the Rainbow.
  

  IF ONLY!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cjvwTzhG8g