J W Survey Article : Upcoming Assembly Encourages J W Youth to Lie About Homosexuality

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  • redvip2000

    We don’t have a problem with you as long as you do not have sex. Also, you have to pretend you’re heterosexual.

    This in reality is a tacit admission that being gay is natural. In other words they are admitting you truly don't have a choice on whether you are gay or not, which is to be fair, more enlightened than the folks that say that you can simply decide not to be gay, because it's not organic.

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    The issue of dealing with the reality of human sexuality is one which the GB cannot win.

    Their stance only emphasises how primitive their "Bible-based" instructions are, in fact how cruel and inhuman the Bible is.

    How do they treat the small percent of individuals who either by birth, as in the case of some born with any of the various physical gender intergrades—or those whose natural inclination is homosexual or bi-sexual? They instruct them to suppress the facts of their identity and to abstain from any sexual activity.

    The fundamentals of the organisation is blind obedience to the ancient dogma designed for Iron Age war-lords. Their reasoning being that it worked for "god's people" then so it must be obeyed today. No wonder they have to resort to "theocratic" lies to sustain their business.

    There is no compassion in the Watchtower organisation for those who cannot reflect their glossy surface of a squeaky clean image.

    JW org rule number one:

    Forget the feelings of the individual, it is always the Watchtower Bible and Property Empire which comes first.

  • cofty

    The Watchtower's foundational claim is that it is faithful to the bible. The bible unequivocally condemns homosexuality. Therefore the Watchtower condemns homosexuality.

    Their official statements are actually much more measured than many evangelical churches. The problem is that there are still people in the 21st century who think the bible is worthy of attention.

  • BluesBrother

    Interesting comments above. Personally, I believe that this is just window dressing for the public, strategy to stave off any media accusations of homophobia . The more "In-house" comments of Anthony Morris are more typical of how they think.

    Certainly, if they were to become more gay-friendly they would lose the support of the generation of dubs my age , who have been conditioned to abhor such ones over many decades. I suspect that some may even be offended by this demo, viewing it as 'going soft' on sin.

    The article referred to "Theocratic warfare " . This concept was born in the 1950's due to intense persecution in the Eastern Block of Nations and when memories were fresh of WW2 Nazi Germany. The situation is hardly the same today in the West. The Watchtower at the time described it's limited permitted use.

    Wt Feb 1st 1956 p 88

    45 We dare not lie against God’s Word, adding to it or taking away from it, reading into it what it does not say and denying, passing over or explaining away what it does truthfully say.

    So, when Witness Hannah says "the Bible says that we should respect ALL people, regardless of their sexual preference." Is that a truth or a lie?....then It’s the same with out differing views of homosexuality. Everybody has the right to choose"

    I think not.

    Interestingly, we have applied the term "strategy" to G Jackson's testimony before the A.R.C. as have some dub apologists . That Watchtower article said:

    46 Never swear falsely in Jehovah’s name. Jehovah declares that at his temple he will be a “swift witness against . . . the false swearers.” (Mal. 3:5, AS) Never take an oath in his name and then tell lies as a sworn witness....

    We all saw him swear on his silver bound NWT Bible . Was God pleased that day?

  • Vidiot

    Cofty - "...The problem is that there are still people in the 21st century who think the Bible is worthy of attention."

    Don't worry.

    Sooner or later, they'll get around to reading it.


  • Pistoff

    They are NOT less extreme, they just want to SEEM less extreme.

    The WT has become better at talking out of both sides of their mouths.

    On the one side, you have this deceitful demo; on the other, you have Tony Morris, the raging homophobe on the GB.

    Will we find out he is gay, as so many other fundies that rage against 'the gays'?

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