by AnonVet 11 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Mormons, Scientology.
Today me and my wife visited one of her friends from the Kingdom Hall who is about 90 years old.
She kept going on and on about this book she was reading about the second coming of christ. She then showed us and it wasnt anything printed by the WTS. It was actually an evangelical book.
I laughed . I wasnt sure if she was losing her marbles or just didnt care anymore. Anywho i told my wife to keep her mouth shut about it. I think one of her studys in the old folks home might be converting her.
It's not quite true of Mormons. It may be that ordinary Mormons are told to avoid critical literature. At the same time they have a small army of academic Mormons who do little else but read and refute literature critical of the church; activity sanctioned by the church, and much of it in collaboration with Brigham Young University. JWs have nothing comparable to this.
I agree, slimboyfat.
What other religions (cults) are there that absolutely forbid outside research on threat of punishment / shunning?
Some people have mentioned Scientology and the Mormon church. I could mention a number of these groups, but I think it's the wrong approach. Based on what I know, the label cult doesn't describe exactly what you may want to convey, which is a practice that ranges from simply hiding facts, to discouraging members from researching, to have it as a rule not to do research, to shame, mock, shun or ridicule people who do research, to punish people for doing research, to kill people for doing research. If you see, there are degrees of severity in which such groups apply or enforce their control over others.
As such, it's not easy to just identify one group, hence, there are different opinions about the Mormon church falling into that category. Professionals in the area of those types of groups say that there's not such "list" of groups that take such actions due to labeling being misleading (hence, they may get in legal trouble for doing so), and also because the degree to which such actions are taken and applied to followers, along with the way those actions are applied considerably vary.
However, that said, here are some groups, some of them no longer existing, where people I know have mention had such strict rules against people researching what they claim/teach, or researching about who they really are:
Then there are the ones that made the news:
I hope this shed some light. Cults are not to be taken lightly.
And what about groups that ban discussion outside the Establishment? Whether it be discussion about the source of a war or terror attack, discussing a cure for an illness that the Rockefeller system is profiting from and is close to exterminating more "useless eaters" (Kissinger's term for people), or anything that might help them enslave you, these groups do not want people doing outside research. And the list is quite long.
For starters, how many Holocaust deniers are not just shunned, but prosecuted? In many countries, questioning the official doctrine is a major crime. Not denying it, just questioning the extent of it. Just doing the math, watching the videos, and doing the research is banned. They even made doing accurate research impossible by destroying most of the original evidence. Is questioning such an event a real crime? Is bashing anyone for even bringing it up any better than the jokehovians that bash people that disagree with their theology?
And, the 9/11 terror attack. The official narrative is that the planes hit the towers, created a fire, and the fire destroyed the buildings. Plenty of home videos exist that prove otherwise--one of the buildings that came down was never hit, and some of those videos show charges going off just before the buildings came down. Is attacking someone for mentioning this any better than attacking someone for questioning the 607 lie?
Not to be outdone, the cat lick church is the grand-daddy of the whole information suppression. They sought out those with knowledge that would contradict with their official doctrine, intended to enslave the masses in misery, and tortured them. Basic knowledge of space was lost, and people were arrested for teaching that the earth might not be the center of the universe or that it was shaped like a sphere (roughly--it is not really perfect) instead of like an old phonograph record. Much medical knowledge was lost, resulting in needless deaths for preventable and easily curable diseases.
Today, we have widespread suppression of science. Cures for all major diseases are suppressed so people can suffer needlessly (while Rockefeller gets more of your money). Free energy is suppressed, creating energy shortages and needless expense while Rothschilds and Rockefellers get rich. We have sacred "scientists" that are nothing more than scam artists, where it is a crime to question their "knowledge" that does nothing more than stifle real advances (such as traveling faster than light). That f***ing space shuttle was nothing more than a means to croak the whole space program, and it did stop us from reaching Mars and beyond. (Not to mention the number of them that blew up.)
And this "fake news" crap--is this an attempt to force people to trust media that intentionally lies to keep the people sick, broke, and dumb? They go all out to suppress alternative viewpoints that might debunk stories of an original incident that can be milked for infinite debt, that might allow people to prevent or cure diseases, or that could have solved our problems with energy and food shortages without resorting to inefficient (corn ethanol?) or dangerous (genetically modified foods that just give resistance to patented pesticides?) means.
Yes, the jokehovians do practice all of this information suppression. But, I think it is quite widespread outside the jokehovians as well. The whole political correctness, tolerance (where everyone equals everyone else), and attacks on anyone that might post different ideas suggests that joke-hova itself is leading the whole earth to its damnation, and that it will forcibly attack anyone that tries escaping or even protesting (as it did during the cat lick inquisition). Joke-hova itself is the source of all damaging cults, and it should not be taken any more lightly than those cults that are identified as such.
I seem to come across the Exclusive Brethren a bit. I gather they have some pretty fierce shunning rules, and members are not allowed to access the internet at all. It seems like Watchtower on steroids.
I haven't heard the Amish described as a cult, but surely they are, as well.
If you are not allowed to research outside of your religion's published sources, you are in a cult.
Just about all religions frown on critical research from a outsiders perspective, why ?
Because they cant control that information and if its contravening to what the leaders have established around themselves as God's chosen ones for example, they risk losing that power and control. ....... and as in the WTS. supporting money.
