Something you won't see on ... They discourage music education

by Greybeard 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Greybeard

     Is this not a Bible command too or only a suggestion?  Psalms 33:32, "Give thanks to Jehovah with the harp; Sing praises to him with a ten-stringed instrument. Sing to him a new song;  Play skillfully on the strings, along with shouts of joy.

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    Nope....this video doesn't feed into their belief that all non JW's are evil oriented.

    I'm glad you posted this G.Beard, you've inspired me dust off my Ukulele and have a bit of a sing along with the family this evening. Going to have to do this more often... I'd gotten out of the habit of playing and had forgotten how much fun it is.

    Thanks !


  • Greybeard

    Right on Pete! So glad to hear that. It really inspired me too, I am looking for a ukulele now. It is a very happy sounding instrument. Remember when the assemblies had a live orchestra? They took all that away. Why?  Maybe Jehovah prefers recordings. 

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    My Mom played the Harp in the Orchestra and there was a lot of infighting among the musicians. Who should play what part, who was too loud, who should be asked to leave etc. I think they finally got fed up with the whole thing and went with recordings. Too bad because they weren't as good as the real least in our area anyway.

  • bats in the belfry
    bats in the belfry

    Rather, it's like this:

    In video CO16 E 16 No07 1 an obviously talented child is asked by the teacher to attend a program for young gifted musicians playing violin. See what happens . . .

  • hoser

    It is cruel to children to have them take music lessons for years and then when they get good enough say they can't make a career of it because they will be surrounded by worldly people.

    No matter what job they do they will be surrounded by worldly people. Why not do something they enjoy.

  • zeb

    watch Mari Samuelsen play her Violin, play 4 seasons. If she was a jw we wouldn't have such a wonder to experience.

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Who's doing these? it doesn't seem to be JW.ORG?

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    I'm so sickened and angered by that violin video.....I hardly even know what to say.

    I hadn't seen this one before but I heard this same crap 40 years ago. "Wait till the New System Pete where you'll have all eternity to pursue your interests." Here I am about to welcome my first grandchild into the world !

    • Was asked to be on the H.S. Swim Team and wrestling team (didn't do it...what fun it would have been. Thankfully I let my Sons do it and it was amazing to see how much confidence it gave them)
    • Wanted to become a Pilot (didn't do it....regret it and may still give it a go)
    • Wanted to become a Dentist (didn't do it and wish I would this day, my Dentist always is surprised by my knowledge of the field, Instead I was sent out into the world to make a living taking any job I could and having to be around some pretty lowlife uneducated people at times.)
    • Skiing (Naughty Pete did it anyway and its been a life long joy)
    • Guitar Lessons (Disobedient Pete took them anyway....another life long joy)
    • Art Lessons ( Spiritually weak Pete took them anyway...another life enriching ability)
    • Architecture (Nope....Good Boy Pete went to I work in the Engineering field and am asked by College educated co workers from foreign countries (Engineers) who barely speak English "Why you no go to College Pete grew up in America....I am from India and I have 2 degrees? " I'm the one who reviews and approves their Engineered drawings yet they make more than me because I don't have a Degree.

    What about Prince.....he continued pursuing his dream after becoming a JW and even wore make-up and women's clothes in the process and was considered to be in "Good Standing"??? 

    It's a good thing I don't know what number to call because the phone lines would be on fire and somebody at Bethel would be getting their head bitten off right about now.

  • Greybeard

    I seen it before Pete, recently, if I am not mistaken, I think it was played at the recent convention... Sorry I'm not sure. This post is actually a response to that video after I watched it. Pissed me off too bro. I remember growing up and our big happy song we all would sing together was, "Where Jehovahs Witnesses." Of course we would sing it on the way to the meeting or over and over on a long trip to the convention. At lest we had some fun and joy but what a cult mind bender. "Ours is the God of true prophecy! What he foretells comes to be!" Is there any wonder why they took this hit song out? The "mouthpiece of Jehovah" and "a prophet like Ezekiel" said "The Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 pass away" is a man made lie. What Jehovah Witnesses foretell does NOT come to be! Thats the real history! See Isaiah 44:26 Governing Body. Yes I am talking to you Rabi's who are unquestionable men who claim to be appointed by God.

    What we need are some "Real Theocratic Heros" Remember the jingles that went viral among JW's? Thats the power of music. Those are my boys and they are caught in this non-inspired man made mind control group. I taught them like I was taught myself singing, "Were Jehovah's Witnesses" over the mountains and through the woods to paradise we go... You know the story and they are repeating the story. However, I woke up from the dream and they are still singing, "Were Jehovahs Witnesses, what we foretell comes to be." I question my leader, win one appeal, yes I won one for my step son wrongly DFed by a Rabi because he had 4 beers! It was overturned and they disliked me very much to say the least. I start to question more after my mothers death. Now I am cast out as "apostate" and totally cut off from all my family and grand children and I am only 53 years old... Lost it all including a family business I was cut out of.

    As many of you know, when you are raised this way, it is not easy to wake up to reality, it is a very strong delusion and a program that runs deep into our very soul. It is who we were. It is like a virus in the back of our heads we constantly fight. This was the "TRUTH" and if you didn't believe it you will be kicked out and die at Armageddon. Fear and guilt are used to control the mind. The fear is of everlasting death if you so much as even question the Devine appointment and direction of the governing body openly. They are totally unquestionable and demand to be called "Rabbi" meaning appointed by God so no questions allowed. The terms Governing Body and Rabi both represent men appointed by God who have unquestionable authority. (Matthew 23:8) Jesus said, "The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses." Has anything changed? They lift themselves up over the "brothers" as Jesus said we all are brothers and demand to be called our teacher because without them we cannot find the truth. The least quoted scripture and greatest warning of all is this one, "1 John 4:1, "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." As a Jehovah Witness you are expected to except every statement, inspired or not, and obey without question as if it were directly from Moses or Jesus. Questioning and testing is called apostasy and if it were allowed, they would stone you to death. As it is, you are cut off from your family that they hold a strong grip on. I will do all I can with my music to bring the Watchtower walls down and free my family. Governing Body, I for one am looking forward to meeting you. Have some questions if you don't mind I want to ask you all face to face. I have absolutely no fear of you Rabi's. Here is who you got to fear, the one you claim to be the "mouthpiece" of... "However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it." Deuteronomy 18:20-22

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