Endure or Enjoy??

by stuckinarut2 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Xanthippe

    The cult demands they live a weird life that deliberately separates them from family, neighbours and colleagues. No birthdays, holidays, college, constant KH attendance and FS. Being forced to be no part of the world their lives are hard, being different from all non-cult humans is hard. So the cult turns that into persecution and endurance. Result - fear, paranoia and more separation. Trapped for life.

  • carla

    Thank you for your response dubstepped. I have to disagree though on how other religions see it, many Christian's see it as having abundance (however one defines 'abundance') now, in the living. Abundance can mean love, finances, joy, health, etc...etc...

    Some will want to bring up death as not having life abundantly but to a Christian there are worse things than death. Christians who feel that upon their death they will be with their Lord (heaven) they do not fear death and only view their life here on earth as soul having and earthly experience.

    Remember Mouthy (Grace)? she couldn't wait to die and go home for quite a number of years before her death.

    (and yes, I am in the camp that jw's are not Christians)

  • Ding

    Despite the talk of the organization being a spiritual paradise, it's hard to convince anyone that it's enjoyable to live a life characterized by never-ending field service, meeting attendance, repetitive literature reading, and organizational rule-keeping.

    Easier to sell that it terms of enduring faithfully to the end...

  • stuckinarut2

    So I was just talking with my father who is still very much "in". He was speaking of how "tough things are getting in this system"

    Then he was speaking of a friend of his, a witness "brother". This "brother's" wife is not a witness, and my father says "But she is nice though".

    I pulled him up and said "why wouldn't she be nice? Why did you draw that negative conclusion that because she was not a witness, that she might not be a "Nice" person!

    Mind boggling!

  • smiddy

    The paradise JW`s envisage ,during the 1000 year reign of Christ , many will not want to live under that system ,why do I say that ? because according to scripture at the end of JC`s reign their are multitudes who rebel at a theocratic rule by God and their is a final war against Satan and his demons .

    This is going to happen a thousand years in the future after Jesus Christ`s 1000 year reign ,

    So all these hordes against jesus christ millenial reign are still alive after his rule finishes ,so that must mean they are active during his 1000 year reign ,doesnt sound like paradise to me.

    So the paradise JW`s think they are going into in the very near future wont be for at least another 1000 years away.

    Jw`s never enjoy their worship it is always something to be endured for the percieved reward ahead which is always just out of reach of the JW.with the promise of it`s just around the corner.and is never realised ..

    In the meantime Jw`s lose out on a life worth lived., their only one.

  • Xanthippe
    I pulled him up and said "why wouldn't she be nice? Why did you draw that negative conclusion that because she was not a witness, that she might not be a "Nice" person!
    Yes Stuck I'm glad you pulled him up on it. It's so bad for their mental health to have an us and them attitude to people. No wonder so many JWs are depressed. People are never a sea of faces, they're individuals.

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