Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

by smiddy3 33 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Terry
    Terry

    If you talk about Zombie movies and ask, "Why would dead people be hungry? Why don't Zombies poop? Why wouldn't all of them rot and fall to pieces?" etc. etc. You would be demanding Real World logic to apply to a very unreal premise.
    We can't mix the real with the unreal and make it logical.
    Adam's DNA was in his rib. Eve was MADE OUT OF that. Does that bother you?
    When it comes to magic tricks, it is all a matter of hiding the flim-flam so the audience doesn't see it.
    When it comes to BELIEF - the audience willingly agrees to look the other way.
    Until they don't.
    We are EX-JW's because we stopped looking away.

  • PaddyTheBaddy
    PaddyTheBaddy
    If you talk about Zombie movies and ask, "Why would dead people be hungry? Why don't Zombies poop? Why wouldn't all of them rot and fall to pieces?" etc. etc. You would be demanding Real World logic to apply to a very unreal premise.
    We can't mix the real with the unreal and make it logical.

    Hi Terry,

    There is more to zombies than meets the eye. Or is there?

    https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/how-philosophers-use-zombies-to-understand-consciousness

    Why do philosophers need zombies?

    The concept is kind of a mind trick. Imagine a being that looks and even talks like a human. It goes through all the normal motions of a human and yet has no consciousness. And you would have no idea that it is not like you.

    According to philosophers like David Chalmers, p-zombies are an argument against physicalism - the school of thought that everything that makes us human is ultimately derived from our physical characteristics.

    Physicalism is based on the success of science in exploring the physical world. According to physicalists, we are essentially intricate arrangements of atoms. Behaviorists, a subset of physicalists, maintain that even all mental processes - thoughts, desires, etc - are just responses to the behaviors of others.

    If a p-zombie that is exactly like us, except for the sense of self and consciousness, is logically conceivable, then this possibility could support dualism, an alternative view that sees the world consisting of not just the physical but also the mental.

  • Rocketman123
    Rocketman123

    Anything can happen in mythological stories, (Genesis account) the bible is full of fictional stories, this had to happen due to mankind's ignorance of the world they lived in.

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    What about Jesus rubbing shoulders so to speak with Satan ? having associated with him on a few occasions and allowing Satan to tempt him ?

    Associating with an apostate.?

    If he did that in a congregation he would be brought up before the Elders and DF.

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