Jediism not a religion, UK Charity Commission rules

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  • HB

    Thought this might be of interest......


    Jediism not a religion, Charity Commission rules

    Jediism, the worship of the mythology of Star Wars, is not a religion, the Charity Commission has ruled.

    The commission rejected an application to grant charitable status to The Temple of the Jedi Order.

    It said Jediism did not "promote moral or ethical improvement" for charity law purposes in England and Wales.

    In the 2011 census, 177,000 people declared themselves Jedi under the religion section, making it the seventh most popular religion.

    In its ruling the Charity Commission said there was insufficient evidence that "moral improvement" was central to the beliefs and practices of Jediism.

    It also noted the Jedi Doctrine can be accepted, rejected and interpreted by individuals as they see fit.

    The commission said to be classed as a religion it must have a positive beneficial impact on society in general and raised concerns that Jediism may, in part, have an "inward focus" on its members.

    What is Jediism?

    Jediism is based on the observance of the Force, described as "the ubiquitous and metaphysical power" that a Jedi believes to be the underlying, fundamental nature of the universe

    • Jedi do not believe in a god, having faith instead "in the Force, and in the inherent worth of all life within it"
    • They believe in eternal life through the Force and do not become "obsessed in mourning those who pass".
    • Jedi may grieve but are content, knowing they will "forever be a part of the Force"
    • The definition of Jediism states the religion is an "inspiration and a way of life" for people who take on "the mantle of Jedi"
    • The Jedi Doctrine acknowledges there is some "scope for followers to simply view Jediism as a philosophy or way of life" and some Jedi prefer to avoid the word religion

    Daniel Jones, leader of the Church of Jediism, said Jedi would continue to do charity work without any legal status and was convinced "Jediism's status will change in the next five years".

    "It's not what anyone in the Jediism community wants to hear, when you have churches like Satan and Scientology with charitable religious statuses," he told the BBC.

    Jediism has more adherents than Rastafarians and Jains, according to the census.

    But the number of Jedi fell sharply from 2001, when 390,000 people said they were followers of The Force.

    Kenneth Dibble, the chief legal adviser at the Charity Commission, said: "The law relating to what is and is not a charity evolves continuously and, as in this case, can be influenced by decisions in other areas. Our role is critical in interpreting and explaining the extent of what the law considers charitable

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  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    7th most popular religion--where--in the UK ? where does the watchtower society come then ?

  • Simon
    It said Jediism did not "promote moral or ethical improvement" for charity law purposes in England and Wales.

    But the other religions do ???

    I can think of a couple right off the bat that miss the mark.

  • Londo111

    In essence, the Jedi philosophy is based on Tsoism. So there is already a religion by those tenants.

    May the Force be with you.

  • darkspilver

    The number of Jedi Knights in the England and Wales has plummeted in recent years:

    2001: 390,127 Jedi Knights
    2011: 176,632 Jedi Knights

    So that's something like a 55% decrease?

  • David_Jay

    Don't feel bad. Judy-ism also failed to get approved by the same standards, though it's adherents believe they do indeed "promote moral and ethical improvement" via their religion.

    JUDY-ISM: the worship of all things Judy Garland (and sometimes her daughter Liza).

    Members of Judy-ism (who refer to themselves as "Jus," pronounced JOOS), worship the talent and many styles of the famous actress from the "happy golden days of yore." Arguing that they should be recognized for all the good they promote, Jus have been busy publicizing their various dogmas to the public, some of which include:

    1. Always be a first-rate version of yourself instead of a second-rate version of somebody else.

    2. Never go looking through keyholes (as you will always see someone looking back).

    3. All trolleys go "clang, clang, clang," but all bells go "ding, ding, ding."

    4. There's no place like home.

    5. You can always prove your parents wrong by putting on your own show.

    6. Have yourself a merry little Christmas.

    7. Witches are old and ugly.

    8. Psychologically you can be very confused, but personally feel just wonderful.

    9. The best fruit punch is made with limes and lemons and pears. (Oh my!)

    10. When it's time to say goodbye, you'll always miss scarecrows the most.

    Members of Judy-ism plan to come together and fight for full religious recognition next year when they meet in St. Louis for the world's fair, shortly after the annual Easter parade, in the good old summertime. Interested parties can join them by simply following the yellow brick road or clicking their heels three times. Everyone is welcome, and Toto too.

  • HB
    7th most popular religion--where--in the UK ? where does the watchtower society come then ?

    JWs are such a miniscule religion in the UK that they don't seem to appear in any 'popularity of religion' lists I can find, but are lumped in with "other" or at best 'non Trinitarian' religions.

    The below list which didn't include JWs, was from 2009 taken from the British Social Attitudes Survey :~

    No religion - 50.7%

    C of E - 19.9%

    Christian (no denomination) - 9.3%

    Catholic - 8.6%

    Muslim 2.4%

    Presbyterian/Church of Scotland - 2.2%

    Methodist - 1.3%

    Other protestant - 1.2%

    Hindu 0.9%

    Sikh - 0.8%

    refused / N/A - 0.4%

    Other Christian - 0.4%

    Judaism - 0.4%

    Other religions - 0.3%

    I'd be interested to see more up to date figures if anyone can find them.

    JWs had 137,631 "publishers" in the UK in 2015 according to Wikipedia.

    It's not a direct comparison by any means as the statistics are 5 years apart, but it appears that in 2011 there were more adherents to the Jedi faith in the UK than there were JWs in the UK in 2015.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    JWs had 137,631 "publishers" in the UK in 2015 according to Wikipedia.

    wow--i'm impressed--that about doubled from when i was a dub.

    but then--i quit 45 years ago.

  • jwleaks

    Interestingly "money" is always granted the benefit of a charity status. No doubt because it is worshipped by all religious leaders.

  • pepperheart

    The charity comission might be setting a very good precedent for the future.They still have a good few months before they have completed the JW report and i will be very intrested to see what comments they have to make about the jws and their lack of safe guarding etc

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