If we could ask the Disciplines today this one question.
Imagine if we had an opportunity today to ask any of the faithful disciples this question.
Who resurrected Jesus?
What would their response be... if they still remembered what Jesus said in John 2:19-22
19 Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”+ 20 The Jews then said: “This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was talking about the temple of his body.+ 22 When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples recalled that he used to say this,+ and they believed the scripture and what Jesus had spoken.
I think that they would say Jesus resurrected his own body, as he said in the above scriptures.
Your thoughts everyone :)
JWs would only say the father. Her the disciples are saying Jesus. Since reading this and thinking about it. Well I've not been able to stop thinking about it.
Not once did I ever see this or speak to anyone about these scriptures.
These are explosive for me.
Jesus was obviously made of yeast because he rose himself. Gimme a break. He died and the zealots made him a hero. How many resurrected people do you know?
To discuss Bible doctrine gets you absolutely nowhere. It is impossible to arrive at a comprehensive understanding of it because the Bible is not a coherent set of texts, they were never written with the intention of becoming "The Holy Bible". It is an anthology, a careful selection modified to support a political ideal. Nothing fits properly unless you happen to know what was meant at the time of writing and the contemporary cultural milieu. The Bible is not divine, it was written and compiled for humans by humans.
However, the partisan writer of the text in question at John 2; 21,22 clearly had in mind a universal trope of pagan tales that demigod heroes died for three days and came back to life. (Ulysses did in the Odyssey)
The idea is drawn from the astronomical relevance of the "death of the Sun" December 21st when the point of sunset stops travelling south along the western horizon and "comes back to life" by starting to travel north three and a half days later at sunrise in the east on the 25th December. Three and a half days crops up a lot in the Bible as a signal of special meaning to "those in the know".
Nobody could have possibly remembered Jesus' words verbatim which became part of the the book of John. The words instead are the work of the promoters of the Jesus cult, who were in competition with other Christ cults all striving for market dominance in the first three centuries of the common era.
The readers back in the time they were written would have been led to understand that the cultural motif implied their man Jesus was no ordinary punter. Three days dead and a trip back to life makes you a God like the Sun God and his father. Such is the stuff of myth and mind bending propaganda.
There are many "sacred secrets" or mysteries which have not yet been revealed. One day we shall have all of the answers. In the meantime we ponder; we discuss; we debate. Our beliefs are diverse.
None of us yet has the Full and Complete Truth.
One day we shall have it. Then we shall know.
You suppose too much when you suppose these men actually existed and it all happened as was written in what I am sure are 4 fictions chosen out of several.