Newly DF'd/DA'd

by praying_mantis 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • praying_mantis
    praying_mantis

    Over a year ago I divorced my husband. He is the son of an elder, was addicted to pornography, and started doing drugs before I called it quits.

    Since then, I have met someone else. We plan to marry. He is not a witness. I lived with him for several months, then moved back to my hometown. We are engaged.

    Since my return, I have been told that in order for my exhusband to remarry, I need to be dealth with. I already told the elders that I was living with my fiancee (it was either me, or my family telling them, so I chose to do it) and the CO himself told me that that was all they needed and that my ex was free to remarry. A few months later, I am told that a letter from the society (I guess the elders wrote them because they didnt know what to do) told them to deal with me before my ex can proceed to get on with his life. I phoned the so called chairman of the judicial comittee, crying and begging them to leave me alone. I was given ultimatums, threatened ("If you dont meet with us, we will proceed without you!") He asked me if I was in a relationship now. I told him it was none of his business. He tried to tell me that they wanted to help me. I laughed through my tears. I hung up on him and wrote my DA letter after that.

    That night, he phoned my house. I refused to speak to him. He told my dad that they decided to DF me and that I could appeal within 7 days. My dad said there was nothing to appeal, I made the decision. The elder raced to my house to pick up the DA letter. I told my dad to tell him that they better announce it that I DA'd myself, not the other way around. The elder said he would "dicuss it with the brothers."

    I am distraught. I am 28 and have been baptized for 12 years. My mother, and brother in law are baptized and live in this house. My sister is studying. I feel sick inside, even though I know it is what I had to do. I feel like I have been sentenced to death.

  • Skimmer
    Skimmer

    Hello praying_mantis, and welcome to the discussion board.

    Many of us here know all too well how you are feeling. Although the details may differ from case to case, it's all still pretty much the same and you'll see this more clearly as time passes.

    Do not worry if you are DA'ed, DF'ed, declared apostate, or just silently shunned. You are not responsible for what goes on inside of the elders' heads. But you are responsible for what goes on inside your head, and you are being irresponsible if you allow others to control your thoughts.

    You are now in the process of finding out which friends are real and which are just hypocrites. It can be tough, but it's better to know than to engage in self deception.

  • praying_mantis
    praying_mantis

    Thanks for the reply...I agree with what you are saying. Its a hard habit to break though you know? Those old thoughts and beliefs are always at the back of my mind. And I feel so GUILTY.

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    G'day praying_mantis,

    Thanks for telling your story. Reading through it seems you have been "co-operating" by playing their game. Perhaps your experience will help others who 'lurk' on this board to see that the elders will always have power over you if you let them. They are trained persecuters. They will not admit it but their procedures learned by them from the Borg bear all the hallmarks of a cult. Don't let them near you is my advice. If you have resolved to make a life apart from the Watchtower, then show it and do it.

    It wasn't clear to me from your account as to the position of your family. Is your fiancee one who is reliable and strong to support you? I hope so.

    Skimmer has said "You are now in the process of finding out which friends are real and which are just hypocrites". Be prepared to find that there won't be many. In "the truth" you may have thought you had plenty of friends. In reality, they are acquaintances. Any friendships are conditional. They are the cold hard facts.

    The good news is that many thousands of exJWs have found a happy life away from the Borg.

    May that be your happy experience.

    Come back to the board soon.

    Cgheers,

    Ozzie

  • Skimmer
    Skimmer

    Guilt is a useless emotion. It is just a waste of time and does no one any good. In fact, feeling guilty eats up emotional energy that one could be using for much more constructive tasks. Feeling bad about past events is of no practical purpose, unless you happen to have a time machine that you can ride into the past and change things.

    The sinister side of guilt is that it can be used by manipulative and controlling persons to force others' behavior. And guilt trips can be sponsored by organizations as well.

    Why don't you ignore the WTBTS for a moment and take a look at your bible in the book of John starting at the last verse of chapter 7 and moving through the first part of chapter eight. Read what Jesus did and then ask yourself if he endorsed guilt trips when he said, "Go, and sin no more". Just the opposite, it seems to me.

  • praying_mantis
    praying_mantis

    Thanks for the reply. :) I just finished reading "kingdom smellodies" and laughed my ass off. Quietly of course...my mom might hear me and wonder what Im reading...

    My boyfriend thinks JW's are a cult...he said that he "forbids" me from talking to the elders, because "they always get you to do something you dont want to do."

    Prior to this whole mess, I stopped going to meetings about....3 or 4 years ago. I guess I knew they would catch up with me eventually. My initial discouragement started when my husband (at the time) asked for a KM. The elder, the PO at the time, said, "Why? You never come to meetings anyways." I went home and bawled...

    I see that my story is not unique though. No wonder we are discouraged from using the internet. Its like they are terrified that we will learn the real truth.

    As much as I know that what I did was not "wrong", I still have the "guilt". An overwhelming sadness. Like I am lost. Scared. Thanks for listening...

  • hippikon
    hippikon

    praying_mantis:
    In time you will be glad of what has happened. Your story is not that dissimilar to many others here. I hope you find encouragement on the board and I’m certain you will make many new friends who can relate to what you have experienced.

    Stay with us and enjoy!

    "But it does move"
    Galileo

  • terraly
    terraly

    Lost, scared and alone is exactly the effect they are trying for, and exactly why we are here to combat it, to let you know that JW's and their loved ones can pull through the whole DF'd/DA'd mess, because we are stronger than them.

    You may find out the "truth" about the "Truth" on this site, but I think what the Org. is really scared about on the internet is places like this, where you can see that not all apostates are devil-worshippers and that you are not alone.

    Welcome, and I hope things work out. Keep your chin up, and remember that at the end of this process the WT will no longer have any power over you whatsoever.

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Hello again Praying_Mantis,

    Please be assured that what you describe, i.e. "I stopped going to meetings about....3 or 4 years ago. I guess I knew they would catch up with me eventually", is harrassment. They are nothing to you now. Don't let them into your life. Now is the time to take control of your own life.

    Let us know how things work out.

    Try smiling, it'll drive 'em crazy!

    Ozzie

  • tergiversator
    tergiversator

    Hello, praying_mantis,

    I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus: you're not alone. I DA'd a year and a half ago, at 17, and I remember feeling very, very lost - as if I had fallen off of my nice secure framework and was floating in the void. It took a while for the panic to go away, and even still I sometimes feel sad for no apparent reason.

    But... it gets better. Give it time. I don't know how much you've already read about the history of the organization online, but reading more helped me finally accept within myself that I was right to leave, and has given me a great deal of peace. Just living life helps immensely also: the more you fill your life with things you want to do (and maybe didn't have time to do before, or weren't allowed to), the less time you have to worry unnecessarily about might-have-beens.

    And yeah, dealing with family hurts. I wish I knew how to make it not be so painful, but I don't. But hey, that's why we're here. Because we know a little bit about what you're going through right now, and want you to know that things do get better. Really.

    Good luck, and I hope things work out for you,
    -T.

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