Clinton's lies only stained a dress, Bush's lie's have killed thousands of innocent lives.
Will
4 BILLION A MONTH!!!! What a worthless waste!
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ashitaka
Clinton's lies only stained a dress, Bush's lie's have killed thousands of innocent lives.
That's the case. Shame as opposed to murder.
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Reborn2002
Hey where have the Bush defenders run off to?
I see some of them on other topics posting how thankful we should be that Dubya is President, yet in the face of documentation showing that he is ultimately responsible for misleading the public, they have vanished. How convenient.
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Realist
its just great that more and more americans realize what unbelievable BS Bush and his band pulled here. and its only attributable to the insane media coverage in the US that the people supported this madness in the first place.
apparetnly even the US soldiers in iraq are pissed now because they have to stay longer than expected. sad that they didn't think clearly before the whole mess started.
if one counts together what the different US admins wasted on unnecessary and corrupt military operation in the last 50 years one could probably eliminate poverty not just in the US (which has by the way the largest percentage of poor people in the 17 top OECD countries) but in half the world.
but what does Bush and these guys care as long as their buddies cash in on the military spendings and oil deals etc.
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Reborn2002
And in today's news, more backtracking and diversion from one of the co-conspirators of the war waged under false pretenses.
Blair even gets so bold to say that even if WMD are NOT found, history will forgive them.. when WMD were the SOLE justification for war in the first place!
Talk about revisionism.
You can read the article and Tony Blair's exact comments as given here:
Blair Tells Congress Iraq War Justified
41 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo! By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - British Prime Minister Tony Blair ( news - web sites) told Congress Thursday he believes "with every fiber of instinct and conviction" that the U.S. and British led war on Iraq ( news - web sites) was justified — and that history will forgive them if weapons allegations used as justification were wrong.
"We promised Iraq democratic government. We will deliver it," he said.
The prime minister suggested that history will forgive the toppling of Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites )'s government even if it turns out that Blair and President Bush ( news - web sites) were wrong about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
To have hesitated "in the face of this menace when we should have given leadership ... that is something that history will not forgive," Blair said, to loud applause from House members and senators.
Blair entered the House chamber to a standing ovation of lawmakers, senior Bush administration officials and American military brass.
The prime minister wryly thanked his audience for a "warm and generous welcome that's more than I deserve, and it's more than I'm used to, quite frankly."
That was a reference to domestic Birtish politics. Before the war, Blair drew stronger opposition in the House of Commons to military action than Bush did in Congress. And like Bush, he has been hit hard by post-war controversy over questionable intelligence about Saddam Hussein's nuclear aims.
Blair's visit to Congress, and then to the White House for a meeting and joint news conference with Bush, came amid deepening questions about the intelligence information both leaders used in arguing that war against Iraq was necessary.
The two leaders were the closest of allies on the war, but the relationship has been strained in recent weeks over questions about British claims that Iraq sought to buy uranium in Africa and the president's use of such an assertion in his Jan. 28 State of the Union address.
"Can we be sure that terrorists and weapons of mass destruction will join together?" Blair asked. "Let us say one thing. If we are wrong, we will have destroyed a threat that at its least is responsible for inhumane carnage and suffering."
Blair arrived aboard his British Airways jet in early afternoon and went directly to Capitol Hill. It was the first leg of a seven-day tour that will also take him to Asia. He is the first British prime minister to address a joint meeting of Congress since Margaret Thatcher in 1985.
His speech also touched on the war on terrorism, the Middle East peace process, the need to eradicate poverty, disease and famine in Africa and the need to promote free trade.
"This terrorism will not be defeated without peace in the Middle East," he said.
In what appeared to be mild criticism of the Bush administration, Blair also said it was important to act in coalitions, not going it alone. "Let us start preferring a coalition and acting alone if we have to, not the other way around," he said.
And, he called on lawmakers not to continue to bear grudges against European countries who opposed the war.
"They are our allies. And yours. So don't give up on Europe," he said.
"When we invade Afghanistan ( news - web sites ) or Iraq, our responsibility does not end with military victory," Blair said. "Finishing the fighting is not finishing the job. We promised Iraq democratic government. We will deliver it."
"We promised them the chance to use their oil wells to build prosperity for all their citizens, not a corrupt elite. We will stay with these people so in need of help until the job is done."
"I believe with every fiber of instinct and conviction I have that we are" right in deciding to go to war without broad international support, Blair said.
Ahead of his visit, White House spokesman Scott McClellan reiterated the recent administration stance that Bush's mention of the British Iraq-Africa report should not have been included in the January address.
Still, he added, "the British have been very clear that they stand by that statement."
Bush said in his State of the Union address, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
The Iraq-Africa dispute has stoked criticism against both the Blair and Bush governments, and Blair's visit helped to further draw attention.
CIA ( news - web sites ) Director George Tenet has thus far taken the blame, suggesting he should have objected when a draft of Bush's speech was circulated to his agency.
And the White House has continued try to deflect responsibility away from the president — even though a page on the White House Web site shows a picture of Bush working on his speech, with a caption that says "President Bush reviews the State of the Union address line-by-line and word-by-word."
Asked about that on Thursday, McClellan said there were "a lot of people involved "who had input into the president's speech. "And the bottom line is the speech was cleared. But we learned some more information later and we should not have included it in there."
U.S.-British ties have also been strained by the fate of two British terror suspects being held at Guantanamo Bay.
Blair is under pressure to raise the issue of Moazzam Begg, 35, and Feroz Abbasi, 23 — Britons being held at the U.S. naval base in Cuba. More than 200 British lawmakers signed a parliamentary motion protesting any American plans to try them before a military tribunal.
I am sure Dubya's Defender Brigade as seen on this discussion board will rally to his cause with deflections and excuses.
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William Penwell
WASHINGTON - British Prime Minister Tony Blair ( news - web sites) told Congress Thursday he believes "with every fiber of instinct and conviction" that the U.S. and British led war on Iraq ( news - web sites) was justified — and that history will forgive them if weapons allegations used as justification were wrong.
I am sorry Mr Blair but that is not the reason why you went to war. What a bunch of lying hog wash. I used to like Tony Blair but the more garabage I hear coming out of his mouth the less respect I have for the man. Tony Blair's days are numbered, we can only hope that Bush's will be next.
Will
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Reborn2002
My my.. some people have VANISHED in the face of evidence.
I think right about now I will insert a timeless quote from a controversial figure that is applicable to current events.
Although this comment was made 40 years ago, it is still pertinent today.
"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or who says it." - Malcolm X, 1963
Take those words and shove them up Dubya's piehole and those who in traditional Pavlovian response fashion go stark raving mad at anyone who criticizes him.
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William Penwell
Also it seems like more American shouldiers have died then what we are led to believe.
Summary By Time Periods Period US UK Total Avg/Day + 3 85 10 95 1.25 + 2 22 2 24 1 + 1 117 31 148 7 Total 224 43 267 2.24 Latest Fatality Date: 7/16/2003
