To: Reporter

by Amazing 24 Replies latest social current

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  Amazing

  Hi Reporter: In your thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/55025/1.ashx you made the following comment:

  #22 is the real kicker. I always assumed that the U.S. was the most generous, by far.

  There are two items that make the US the single largest contributor in the world: 1.) The US contribution of 0.1% of GNP, while a smaller percentage, is still greatly more than all other nations ... because 1.1% of a small country's GNP, while nice, is still very small. For example, Denark could be better compared to Alabama, a small struggling state ... whereas 0.10% of a multi-trillion economy like the USA is big bucks ... and ... 2.) The UN data is only reporting on what aid expenses are from the US government treasury, whereas "private" contributions by individual Americans and corporations is far greater than all other countries combined. But this is not counted in UN reports.

  Finally, I loved your post. While I could debate some of the material because the US has good reasons for opposing the world body, it was still well stated and considerable food for good discussion. I appreciate your research and contribution to healthy debate. I am sorry the thread was locked. - Jim W.
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  Jayson

  If America prides itself in its ability to cure global ills, as in Iraq, why does it not support more countriesfinancially? The minutest percentage of its defence budget could make a big difference to stuggling countries. David Kilkelly, UK

  click here. Take a look at the map. Now go boil a crow and eat it.

  http://emily.news-portal.com/archives/004959.php

  http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/index.html

  The U.S. Agency for International Development's (USAID) FY 2003 budget justification to the Congress reflects the Administration's program and budget request for bilateral foreign economic assistance appropriations.

  The Main Volume of the budget justification summarizes the budget request and discusses the programs and activities implemented through USAID's centrally funded programs and through the four geographic regions.

  A separate Summary Tables volume includes tables that illustrate the foreign assistance budget request for FY 2003 and provide a detailed tabular breakout of the economic assistance budget for FY 2000 (actual), FY 2001 (actual), FY 2002 estimate, and FY 2003 (request).

  Five annexes to the Main Volume discuss USAID programs in the geographic regions and the central programs, including program narratives and data sheets.

  Annex I details programs and activities for Africa.
  
  Annex II details the programs for Asia and the Near East, consisting of East and South Asia, the Middle East, and North Africa.
  
  Annex III details the programs for Europe and Eurasia, consisting of Europe and Eurasia (the Independent States of the former Soviet Union).
  
  Annex IV details the Latin America and Caribbean programs, consisting of Central and South America and the Caribbean.
  
  Annex V details programs of the Agency's central and pillar bureaus, including Democracy, Conflict and Humanitarian Assistance; Economic Growth, Agriculture, and Trade; Global Health; Management; and Policy Program Coordination.
  
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  Simon

  The USA gives the least in terms of GDP of any developed nation.

  Most of what aid they give goes to 'allies' such as Egypt and Isreal in weapons. Other 'aid' is given with strings that means the money comes straight back to them.

  It's not real aid as most people understand it.
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  plmkrzy

  Billions of dollars are sent to "3rd world" countries annually and annually most of it is intercepted by who ever is running that part of the country where the famine is and use it for personal gain. It has been estimated many times that for every single dollar we send to starving children, the starving children might get 10 cents for food. If they are lucky. Why? Because the government in charge of that starving child takes the food out of their mouth before they get it.
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  Jayson

  Simon I wish I had a kind way to say this but, did you bother to look at the link I put up that has which countries get aide via the USA? Israel & Turkey....Um there are a few more. For those that want the truth it is there. For those who want to hide behind false walls of statistics whatever. I can only put up the UN stats I can't make people look at them.
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  Realist

  amazing,

  There are two items that make the US the single largest contributor in the world: 1.) The US contribution of 0.1% of GNP, while a smaller percentage, is still greatly more than all other nations ... because 1.1% of a small country's GNP, while nice, is still very small. For example, Denark could be better compared to Alabama, a small struggling state ... whereas 0.10% of a multi-trillion economy like the USA is big bucks ... and ... 2.) The UN data is only reporting on what aid expenses are from the US government treasury, whereas "private" contributions by individual Americans and corporations is far greater than all other countries combined. But this is not counted in UN reports.

  well in this case you have to compare the US with the EU. if yo do that you will notice that the SU spends far more of its GNP on foreign aid than the US. (of course since all european states are ranked higher than the EU in the foreign aid statistics).

  about the private contributions....do you have ANY official numbers on that?
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  Jayson

  You know I showed you'all mine. What the US Government puts out is there in real dollars. Why do you hide behind statistics and try to change the subject? What is the hard dollar about for the "world" and the "EU" and each country in Europe? Unless statistical precentages are not worth showing when you see the amount of money actually donated. Lets see it, show the numbers. I did. Or are you chicken?
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  Pleasuredome

  i couldn't agree with simon more.
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  Realist

  1.	Denmark	1,733	1,664	1,599	1,632	1.01	1.06	1.01	0.96
  2.	Norway	1,370	1,264	1,346	1,746	0.91	0.8	0.83	0.91
  3.	Netherlands	3,134	3,075	3,155	3,377	0.79	0.82	0.82	0.82
  4.	Luxembourg	119	116	142	143	0.66	0.7	0.8	0.78
  5.	Sweden	1,630	1,813	1,576	1,754	0.7	0.81	0.76	0.74
  6.	Belgium	760	812	866	1,061	0.3	0.36	0.37	0.42
  7.	Ireland	245	239	285	397	0.31	0.3	0.33	0.41
  8.	France	5,637	4,221	4,293	5,182	0.39	0.33	0.34	0.36
  9.	Finland	416	371	389	466	0.33	0.31	0.33	0.35
  10.	Switzerland	969	888	908	933	0.35	0.34	0.34	0.32
  11.	United Kingdom	3,401	4,458	4,659	4,749	0.23	0.31	0.32	0.3
  12.	Canada	1,699	1,722	1,572	2,013	0.28	0.25	0.23	0.28
  13.	Germany	5,515	5,034	4,879	5,359	0.26	0.27	0.27	0.27
  14.	Spain	1,363	1,321	1,748	1,608	0.23	0.24	0.3	0.25
  15.	Australia	982	995	852	962	0.26	0.27	0.25	0.25
  16.	Portugal	276	261	267	282	0.26	0.26	0.25	0.24
  17.	New Zealand	134	116	111	124	0.27	0.26	0.25	0.23
  18.	Japan	15,323	13,062	9,678	9,220	0.35	0.27	0.23	0.23
  19.	Austria	527	461	457	475	0.26	0.25	0.25	0.23
  20.	Greece	194	216	194	295	0.15	0.19	0.19	0.22
  21.	Italy	1,806	1,368	1,493	2,313	0.15	0.13	0.14	0.2
  22.	United States	9,145	9,581	10,884	12,900	0.1	0.1	0.11	0.12
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  Realist

  the statistics are from http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

  adding up the european numbers for 2002 gives about 30 billion - for the US 13 billion!