New Heavens and New Earth is 50 years old now. I Found it!

by plmkrzy 21 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Pager 52:SOUND WARNING AGAINST SPECULATION

    TOM : You stated earlier that Pastor

    Russell was not too certain as to exactly

    what would take place in 1914Was that

    the general attitude of the Witnesses at

    that time?

    JOHN : There is no doubt that many

    throughout this period were overzealous

    in their statements as to what could be expected.

    Some read into the Watch Tower

    statements that were never intended, and

    while it was necessary for Russell to call

    attention to the certainty that a great

    change was due at the end of the Gentile

    times, he still encouraged his readers to

    keep an open mind, especially as regards

    the time element. We might read a number

    of different excerpts from the Watch Tower

    over the years to demonstrate this.

    For instance,

    as early as 1885 Russell writes in

    the Watch Tower :

    "Storm clouds are gathering thick over the old

    world . It looks as though a great European war

    is one of the possibilities of the near future .

    Then follows a rather drastic picture of the

    world situation, and the article closes with

    these words :For these so-called kingdoms of God and their

    armies, prayers are offered to God in the name

    of him whose command is peace, good will

    toward man, and who announces himself as the

    one who shall set at liberty the captives and

    proclaim love, peace and liberty throughout the

    earth to all-for whose liberty he died .

    Thank God the emancipation proclamation is

    going forth ; shackles theological and political

    begin to break, and the groaning creation must

    shortly be delivered into the true liberty of

    sons of God under the dominion of Immanuel ."

    In 1893 the Watch Tower stated :

    "A great storm is near at hand . Though one may

    not know exactly when it will break forth, it

    seems reasonable to suppose that it cannot be

    more than twelve or fourteen years yet future ."

    In 1894,:

    "A few more years will wind up the present

    order of things, and then the chastened world

    will stand face to face with the actual conditions

    of the established Kingdom of God . And

    yet the course of the Church is to be finished

    within the brief space of time that intervenes . "

    Another statement in that same year is

    significant: "As travail upon a woman with child" is the

    inspired description of the forty-year day of

    trouble, by which the Millennial age is commenced.

    The panic of 1873, which affected the

    whole world, was the first spasm, and since

    then at irregular intervals the labor-pains of

    earth have been experienced . Just now, we of

    the United States are in the midst of one of

    these throes of the groaning creation."

    p W 1914, pp . 105, 106, 371 . q W Feb . 1885, p . 1 . r W 1893, p. 194. s W 1894, p . 56. t Ibid ., p. 162.

    WHY COULDNT THOSE BROTHERS JUST CEASE THEIR SPECULATIONS AND NOT RUN AHEAD ALL THE TIME!?

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Page 68:

    TOM :

    What was Russell's viewpoint on

    this matter?

    JOHN : Russell recognized that there was

    a responsibility on all Christians who

    claimed to be of the body of Christ and

    who ever expected to be with him in heaven.

    On the point of organization, as early

    as 1881 Russell recognized that the servant

    God said he would select to carry out his

    work was the entire body of anointed followers

    of Jesus Christ. He wrote in the

    Watch Tower of that year :

    "We believe that every member of this body

    of Christ is engaged in the blessed work, either

    directly or indirectly, of giving meat in due

    season to the household of faith . "Who then is

    that

    faithful and wise servant whom his Lord

    hath made ruler over his household," to give

    them meat in due season? Is it not that "little

    flock" of consecrated servants who are

    faithfully

    carrying out their consecration vows-the

    body of Christ-and is not the whole body individually

    and collectively, giving the meat in

    due season to the household of faith-the great

    company of believers?

    Blessed is that servant (the whole body of

    Christ) whom his Lord when he has come

    (Gr.,

    elthon) shall find so doing . "Verily, I say

    unto you, that he shall make him ruler over all

    his goods." "He shall inherit all things ."

    In course of time this view was lost sight

    of, and attention was focused more upon an

    individual man .€ The view generally held,

    that Pastor Russell himself was the "faithful

    and wise servant" of Matthew 24 :45-47,

    created considerable difficulty for some

    years . The insistence that Russell had been

    "that servant" led many to regard Russell

    in what amounted actually to creature

    worship. They believed that all the truth

    God had seen fit to reveal to his people had

    been revealed to Russell, and now nothing

    more could be brought forth because "that

    servant" was dead. This attitude caused

    Rutherford to root out any remnants of

    creature worship that might be left in the

    organization."

    SEE? RUSSELL ALWAYS SAID THE FDS WAS A CLASS. AFTER RUSSELL DIED SOME DECIDED RUSSELL WAS THE DISCREET SLAVE. RUTHERFORD SAW THIS WAS EVIL CREATURE WORSHIP AND ROOTED IT OUT. GOOD JOB JEHOVAH APPOINTED THE JUDGE TO RUN HIS ORG HUH??

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    I only underlined "them" because I thought is was rather strange wording to use. For some reason it just struck me as peculiar. "Them" "Thier" "They"

    If it is true-and it can be proved true upon the highest authoruty-then it is only reasonable that they prepare for it

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Hey you clever tart, you managed to reproduce the page AND highlight it. sheesh!

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    lol! I would have posted it earlier but it took longer then expected to dry.

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    plum and rf have now been revealed as bona fide berserkers. LOL

    Craig

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Page 36, Pick the LIE:

    "In fact, some in the audience

    were from the other church in the city,

    and because of the good impression that

    had been made they influenced both ministers

    to ask Russell to give another talk

    that same night to an audience made up of

    members of both churches . This was agreed

    upon. At the evening meeting Russell determined

    that now, since they had evidenced

    their interest in Christ's return and

    in the blessings that would accompany his

    presence, it was necessary for him to go

    deeper into this matter and talk to them

    about the time that these things would take

    place . This he did, pointing to 1914."

    .............

    Plum: "Took a long time to dry"

    ??????

    Plumpudding, you are one wierd chick.

    (But I like you)

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    I reproduced them then hung them out to dry

    berserkers? Hahaha. Isn't that a chewing gum?

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    Hope this one works. sheesh.

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    Page 36, Pick the LIE:


    "In fact,

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