360 Furman Street could turn into half billion in apts.

by Dogpatch 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Lofty vision for bldg.

    New York Daily News, June 23, 2003
    By Melissa Grace, Daily News Staff Writer

    Watchtower site may soon be up for sale

    A giant waterfront building owned by the Jehovah's Witnesses in Brooklyn
    Heights could soon go on the block - with an early estimated price tag
    of $120 million.

    The potential sale of the nearly 1 million-square-foot building at 360
    Furman St., a structure that many expect would be converted to luxury
    lofts, has local Realtors abuzz.

    Some 400 to 500 condominium apartments could have views of Brooklyn,
    Manhattan, New York Harbor and the East River.

    "The potential gross sellout price as condos could be half a billion
    dollars," said one appraiser, who asked that his name not be used.

    "Some of the top apartments will have 180-degree views, from the East
    River to the Verrazano Narrows [Bridge]," he said. "Those could sell for
    $4 million to $5 million."

    Melinda Magnett, president of the Brooklyn Corcoran Group, said a low
    asking price of $50 million would set off a bidding war.

    " Waterfront properties are in demand," she said, adding that a $50
    million tag is "hypothetical - they might end up selling the building
    for a lot more."

    Realtors said that between DUMBO and Red Hook, there is nothing else
    quite like the structure, which eventually will be surrounded by the
    planned 67-acre Brooklyn Bridge Park.

    Realtors compared the potential condo conversion of 360 Furman St. to
    the successful 126-unit conversion done at the Clock Tower at 1 Main St.

    Apartments in the DUMBO building are now selling for between $500 and
    $625 a square foot and have appreciated as much as 40% from the original
    1998 sale prices, said Domenick Neglia of Neglia Appraisals Inc. in
    Dyker Heights.

    Witnesses shift

    Built in 1928, the 12-story warehouse at 360 Furman St. sits between
    Atlantic Ave. and Joralemon St. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society,
    also known as Jehovah's Witnesses, purchased it 20 years ago.

    The society used the building as its principal shipping facility for
    Bibles and publications - and has for years been plagued by community
    complaints of truck pollution and noise.

    Last fall, the Jehovah's Witnesses decided to shift the shipping
    facility to their Wallkill, N.Y., center and other facilities around the
    world, said Daniel Rice, a spokesman for the group.

    Of selling 360 Furman St., Rice said, "We don't need it any more."

    While the group - one of Brooklyn Heights' largest property owners -
    posted a press release on its Web site announcing the potential sale,
    the building is not formally on the market.


    <http://www.nydailynews.com/06-23-2003/business/story/94879p-85813c.html>

    Randy Watters

    WatchtowerNews!

    http://www.watchtowernews.org

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    You have to admit that the WTBTS is sitting on some of the nicest pieces of real estate in the Heights!

  • waiting
    waiting

    I forget the scripture that the elders used to quote to jw's about not wondering about the situation where the sinners seem to profit in life while the JW (only good people) seem to have to suffer (and remain poor.)

    Perhaps a fitting scriptural application here?

    The local jw's are still poor (particularily in 3rd world countries) while the WTBTS sells off it's property for millions and millions and millions. lol - and look at the WTBTS Hawaiian property!

    Poor local schmucks.

  • Euphemism
    Euphemism

    Personally, I'm uncomfortable with the notion of criticizing a non-profit for making money. I always hated it when the WTS did it to the Catholic Church... they would talk about the large real estate holdings of the Church, as application of the scripture about Babylon the Great living in luxury. I would think about the fact that most of those real estate holdings were churches that people used to worship, or parochial schools where children were taught, etc. A church with a lot of members needs a lot of real estate! Same goes for the witnesses.

    You can argue that the GB care more about the size of the org and keeping donations flowing than about their members and the truth; and you may very well be right. But in this case, the WTS isn't making the money off its members.

    The WTS got lucky... it bought cheap real estate decades ago, and the real estate appreciated in value over time. The developers are also benefitting... they're getting a choice piece of real estate that they'll be able to resell. No one's being hurt. So what's to complain about?

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    My post was not a complaint. I run a non-profit myself and fully understand your point. But the windfall to Brooklyn Heights is interesting news indeed! I lived at Bethel for 6 years and I know how much they want that property to make money for the city! Go Brooklyn!

    Randy Watters

    Free Minds, Inc.

    http://www.freeminds.org

  • waiting
    waiting

    Hello Euph,

    On the surface - your viewpoint works.

    But in this case, the WTS isn't making the money off its members.

    If the WTS hadn't made money off it's members for decades - as in free help, members peddling their books, members buying their books, donations, etc.,.............the money to the WTBTS wouldn't have been as free-flowing. They ARE a book publishing company, afterall.

    The WTS got lucky... it bought cheap real estate decades ago, and the real estate appreciated in value over time. The developers are also benefitting... they're getting a choice piece of real estate that they'll be able to resell. No one's being hurt. So what's to complain about?

    Yes, people are being hurt. My aunt was a special pioneer her whole life. She has nil social security benefits - as she's never had a job. First Graduating Class of Gilliad. She has no pension. The WT pays for supplemental health ins to go along with what she gets out of Medicare. That's it............for her decades of labor. She was taken in by several family members over the years (84 now) - or she'd have no where to live & no money. lol - the Methodists & Catholics provide much better for their old members.

    The WTBTS has made their money off their own people. Yes, they invested wisely --------but slaughtered their own sheep to have their house--------just like they said the Catholic Church did.

    Poor local schmucks - and it's true.

    waiting

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