Peace and Security

by Golden Earring 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Golden Earring
    Golden Earring

    Now that the (King of the South) has “come all the way to his end…” (Daniel 11:45b) in both human investigative/criminal and now divine terms as have all kings and rulers…Michael can "stand up" (Daniel 12:1)

    (1 Thessalonians 5:3) “For when THEY... shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape” KJV

    UN Security Council: Conflict prevention and mediation (8546th meeting):

    -12 Jun 2019 - Under the agenda:

    “Maintenance of international peace and security”

  • VIII

    There have been so many proclamations of "Peace and Security" I stopped counting and I stopped jumping under the desking waiting for the Great Tribulation to begin. Total BS.

    I grew up with Armageddon in 1975, errr, then 1989, errr, then 1990 something or other then another year. Now it's just around the corner because life on earth is so bad and everyone on earth is so evil and Satan must be unleashed. (Wasn't he for all of humanity?)


  • Golden Earring
    Golden Earring

    "There have been so many proclamations of "Peace and Security" I stopped counting and I stopped jumping under the desking waiting for the Great Tribulation to begin. Total BS."

    Thank you for sharing...

    By the way, If you look at my other posts on this forum, I don't represent the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society who is soon to face its own judgment for such false prophesies. Also, this guy here:

  • rockemsockem

    The only time when I was a Dubber that I really thought they may actually be right was in the early 90s. It was indeed a strange time. The wall came down, Germany ran to reunify like a freight train, the USSR collapsed, and the satellite countries under the USSR went to democracy. But this lasted for a few years and I could see it was much ado about nothing.

  • blondie

    Jesus said at Matthew 24:44, that the end would come at a time we would not think it to be.

    Thus if someone tries to figure out when the end will come, their conclusion or supposition must be wrong per Jesus (at least I say that to people who believe the end statements in the bible).

    Matthew 24:44 New International Version (NIV)

    44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

    Matthew 24:44 King James Version (KJV)

    44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

  • Golden Earring
    Golden Earring

    "No man knows the very day nor hour..." and I don't suppose any one claims to. However, some things are obvious. And they are quite in harmony with prophesy that we were supplied with whether someone wants to argue with them or not.

    44 "Therefore be ye also ready: "

    We were given information including all indications and specific details such as (1 Thessalonians 5:3) leading up to the very times of seasons: "In summer and in winter shall it be" (Zechariah 14:8) for a reason.

    Jesus told us repeatedly to "Keep on the watch!" not for nothing. This person tried to post those things before the Watchtower Society deleted it all:

    My other posts on this forum provide more information regarding some of these things:

  • Golden Earring
    Golden Earring


    • This was at least in part deleted from his original Google+ page by the Watchtower Society but can be found in entirety here: (The Watchtower Society has been blocking links from from embedding on this site so you will likely have to copy and paste it to a new window)

      Honest Counselor says:

      February 14, 2018 at 9:59 am

      Oh what these men will due to try to appear relavent and potent…”ready at the helm” as it were when the reality is very sad and bleak for them indeed!

      “Even people close to them will be no refuge so that they will have to hide in plain site, not even putting on a cloak or false or "Rough garment" as a disguise while claiming to be merely working class (John 12:25). However, they won’t be able to fool those who are seeking them out for their crimes":

      Zechariah 13: (3), 4-6

      4. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, (which painfully miserably failed and with deadly effect) when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

      5. But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman (Farmer); for a man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.

      6. And one shall say unto him, What are these (fresh, from lack of calluses) wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, those I received (Playing about) in the house of my close friends.”


      “It is already clearly stated prophetically that “The Light of Truth” or “Spiritual Food” supply would fade, become obscure and convoluted in the very end times in harmony with Matthew 24:45-47 which merely asks the question with a promise, “Who really is the faithful and discrete slave?” (And it is only a question. The prophetic part is here: Matthew 24:48-51):

      Zechariah 14:5d, 6

      5d. and the Lord my God shall come and all the saints with thee.

      6. And it shall come to pass in that day that the light shall not be clear, nor dark.

      In fact, it goes on further to state in another context of “light and dark” that at the” Evening Time”, of man when “The light of salvation” or “Light of the World” (John 12:46) would be manifested to him, mankind while on the verge of self extermination, “The Eve of Destruction”.

      Since Adam and Eve were the dawn of mankind, man is presently facing the virtual extinction by various means from the face of the earth at his own hand (Rev 11:18e)"

  • waton

    Whenever----- Is perhaps not meant as a specific prophecy, but to describe the consequence of being unprepared for a clearly looming threat: like Stalin was in 1941, or a husband would be, tolerating his wife aways talking the same alpha male.

  • rockemsockem

    If god is real he is a dead beat dad. LOL And unfashionable late.

  • lastmanstanding

    The dubs can tell you about 1 Thess. 5:3 all day long. But ask them what the preceding verses say, and they go blank.

    They haven’t a clue.

    Ask a dub how they will know the “peace and security “ statement that fulfills the verse, as there have been many.

    They will tell you “it will come out in the Watchtower”.

    Yes, dubs expect “something to be written to (them)” about it.

    But they still can’t tell you what the preceding verses say.

    1 Thess. 5

    1 Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers and sisters,[a] you do not need to have anything written to you. 2 For you yourselves know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

    So, the dubs don’t believe it will be a “thief in the night”, for the dubs will get written notice. No surprises for them...

    Alas, the dubs have never read the preceding verses, as they stay in breathless expectation of “something to be written to (them)” concerning the their in the night.

    3 When they say, ‘There is peace and security’, then sudden destruction will come upon them, as labour pains come upon a pregnant woman, and there will be no escape!

    The point the dubs miss is as plain ad the day. The nations have always said “peace and security” and sudden destruction has always followed.

    But the dubs say “we are different... we are not in darkness, we will not be surprised!”

    4 But you, beloved,[b] are not in darkness, for that day to surprise you like a thief;

    Again the dubs lose. The verses has a qualifier, “surprise you like a thief”.

    A thief is doing wrong, and so when he is caught, it is a surprise to him.

    Christians will certainly be surprised, just not “like a thief “...

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