Have you experienced God? (page 2)

priscilla

Yes. in a most definate and totally unforgettable way. When God is present it is undeniable, leaving me without question to what had happened.

As I mentioned in the polytheism thread, I believe that the divine has various "faces" that are experienced by humans. Also I believe that "That which you do not find within you, you will never find without". Basically its all there "within us" - the capacity to experience this divinity because it is part of everything.

Therefore I would say that your experience is both within yourself and experience of a God. Just my opinion, of course!

Sirona

Robyn,

Very interesting experience! Are you therefore of the opinion that Yahweh (or correct pronunciation of that name) is Supreme?

I know that the divine name is "part of " the Kabbalah. The group I'm with uses the Kabbalah quite a lot - although I'm new to it myself.

Sirona

SS:

My experience of a god has not been like the experience of a spirit of one who has passed. The god experience was....well clearer, stronger, more powerful. I don't know how to describe it apart from "profound".

Did he appear as "light"? Was there a message? I'm interested to know what your experience was.

Priscilla: tell us more!

Sirona

Intro: I don't know the context. I've always taken it to mean that without imagination, new knowledge cannot be gained - I mean you have to have imagination to even concieve of some things before investigating them scientifically.

As for your 2nd paragraph....erm what? Could you clarify what you mean?

Thanks

Sirona

blackout

No,

But I'd like to.

Robdar

Are you therefore of the opinion that Yahweh (or correct pronunciation of that name) is Supreme?

Sirona, I'm not saying anything except that the entity scared the sh*t out of me. I have never known such fear and immediately apologized for bothering him.

Imagine my surprise at the ferocity of this entity. I am of the new age belief that God is love. Love is all there is. If Yahweh is the supreme God, there is more to it than the new agers say that there is.

I have been wondering recently if there really is a battle going on in other realms. This is something that I used to dismiss right away. I am now wondering if I was incorrect in dismissing Biblical account about a war in heaven. I mean, at first glance, those scriptures seem like BS. But, this entity felt like a warrior. A big, bad ass, warrior. However, I felt no animosity from him towards me; only slight curiosity at my temerity.

I believe it was A. Crowley who used to advise caution when using the name of different gods. Perhaps he was correct. I have decided not to push it buy pronouncing J's name. If I say it, he may come. And he seems very busy at this time.

Robyn

Introspection

Well the last post didn't take, maybe this will..

Sirona, what I meant in that second paragraph is basically it takes no imagination to believe in something you were told - for example God according to Jehovah's Witnesses. Regardless of whether this is just a mental thing or even a feeling, the fact that you start having these experiences after 'studying' would be very telling - I think we would call that being brainwashed, or perhaps under mind control. But more to the point I would focus on what is having the experience rather than the experience, after all experience is by nature transient and cannot be the ultimate truth, which would be unchanging.

Sirona

Robyn

Imagine my surprise at the ferocity of this entity. I am of the new age belief that God is love. Love is all there is. If Yahweh is the supreme God, there is more to it than the new agers say that there is.

I do not believe that love is "all there is". I too have encountered a warrior - a Goddess. For me She represents the destruction that is necessary for the cycle of life. In that sense, She is not evil, but neither is She sweetness and light - with her there is just not as much particular focus on individual human being's lives.

I certainly don't think that every God we experience will exude love toward us. Ma'at, for instance, is pure justice (IMO) - She separates rights from wrongs fairly and shows no mercy to those who don't deserve it. Then you have Kwan Yin who to me is a wonderfully loving Earth Mother - she is compassion personified.

But, this entity felt like a warrior. A big, bad ass, warrior. However, I felt no animosity from him towards me; only slight curiosity at my temerity.

Sounds like a profound experience. I'm not sure whether there are "battles" going on in the unseen realms. I'm of the opinion that the bible has some gems in it but is still flawed.

I'd agree with Crowley on using God names willy-nilly. I'm of the opinion that invoking Gods/Goddesses is a serious business and should not be attempted if you have no knowledge of the entity you are dealing with. IMO there is a distinct difference between "invoking" and "evoking" a deity, personally I'm more comfortable at this time evoking. I'm also annoyed by some Wiccans who think that Gods are there to be called upon for every petty spell....in fact I've never called on a deity for a spell because I've never had a need that I'd involve a deity with; raised energy has been enough. I've prayed to certain Gods but that is slightly different - showing them honour is not saying "hey you deity! come and sort out my spell for me!" Even some published books look at some deities as being a "dial-a-god" sort of like "if you want love - just dial A-p-h-r-o-d-i-t-e!"

Sorry I just got ranting about one of my pet hates! LOL.

Maybe the God J-- wouldn't mind being in your life?

Sirona

Intro

Sirona, what I meant in that second paragraph is basically it takes no imagination to believe in something you were told - for example God according to Jehovah's Witnesses. Regardless of whether this is just a mental thing or even a feeling, the fact that you start having these experiences after 'studying' would be very telling - I think we would call that being brainwashed, or perhaps under mind control.

I see what you are saying. Yes, I suppose I'd agree with that. It is entirely possible to experience God based on what you've previously learned or been told. To me it doesn't really matter if we see God as an old man on a throne, a pregnant earth mother, or a turtle holding up the world - isn't it still the "Divine" what we are perceiving? I sort of see it as (bear with me...this is crude) Buddhists see God with Buddha glasses on - and Christians with Christ glasses on. (ahem, I said it was crude lol).

I don't believe that everyone who thinks they've experienced God actually has experienced the Divine - some people, as Saint Satan said, experience something wierd or unexplainable and then think that it was God visiting them.

I guess with Gods, you sort of "know for sure" - or something is revealed that lends support to the idea that it was in fact a divine being.

But more to the point I would focus on what is having the experience rather than the experience, after all experience is by nature transient and cannot be the ultimate truth, which would be unchanging.

Yes. I see "ultimate truth" as being mostly beyond the grasp of a human being incarnate. We can only have "experience" via our senses and obviously we are talking about subjective experiences.

Sirona

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