Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

by slimboyfat 136 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    @BethSarim - Thank you🙂

    @awatcher - Last I knew, 2 out of 144,000 is only 2. And since they're called "witnesses of God" He is the One who knows who they are. "I [God] will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth."

    Watchtower says the "two witnesses" are the 144,000 but Watchtower is wrong.

  • Ron.W.
    Ron.W.

    I'm sure I heard that a high up in watchtower land described the gb as 'a concept' to some authority not too long ago - just can't recall the exact details, can you?

    If that was true, what the hell does that make their 144,000 'teaching'...🤷‍♂️

  • hannes
    hannes

    The entire idea of God's Empire to rule from an invisible otherworldly "heaven" is contrary to Scripture.

    The Son of Man ist the Coming One. He will be with mankind.

    The hundred and fourty-four thousand are his chosen ones out of mankind to become priests for reconcilation and rule for justice. (Cf. Acts: Simon to Jerusalem, and Letter to Romans: concerning the whole creation)

    jw (as a church) are mistaken, misleading and irrelevant.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    FreeTheMasons: Being a human is a gift. It's such a cool gift that some of the angels coveted it.

    As I recall, what they coveted was the nubile bodies of young human women.

    The idea that angels would give up such a hallowed position for a fleeting experience is almost comically silly. The only thing sillier is the idea that such beings would have become aroused at the sight of a young lady, or that a god who is so famously uptight about sex would have made them capable of such sensations.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    Hey, maybe I'll get disfellowshipped from this forum again!

    Again? Interesting comment.

    If it were a democracy, I'd guarantee it.


  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    @TonusOH - Your recollection is flawed. The fallen angels didn't materialize as women.

    As regards persons who are willing to give up something really good in exchange for something fleeting, I'd think you could understand. If you pretend not to understand, that's kind of silly.

    The only thing sillier is the idea that demonocracy could guarantee anything, @DesiriousOfChange.

    The God who invented pleasurable sexual relations is able to pour out more blessings until there is no want. Only a fool would trade such pleasure for nonexistence.

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    Jehovah God's kingdom is coming.

    The 144,000 are literal, and Watchtower's being shut down.

    I guarantee it. I am a witness of Jehovah, and He is the true God.

    Go ahead and get your "electoral college" to disfellowship me. "Make my day."

    See you next time.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    FreeTheMasons: The fallen angels didn't materialize as women.

    I know that. To covet is to desire. They coveted those women's bodies because they wanted to have sex with them. Which means that these spirit beings were capable of being aroused by human bodies. Which makes no sense whatsoever. It also makes no sense for a god who is hung up on sexual misconduct to make angels capable of (1)wanting to have sex with humans and (2)shifting into a physical form to do just that.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Maybe it was the hum of changing opinion

    https://youtu.be/Lzlc0-Mx0sk?si=zLB-ay1L67OPl2-n

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Someone is not taking their meds...............

    Depakote Dangers | The Becker Law Firm

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