REGI stockbroker report shows military connections for Rand Cam

by bebu 15 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • gcc2k
    gcc2k

    Randy,

    Unless I am misreading the information, you are spreading false information. The WT is NOT involved with the Armenian National Committee. The WT was listed as a participant in a UK Holocaust Memorial Day event (understandable, given the JW history in the Holocaust) and the Armenians are protesting the exclusion of their group from the event, requesting that people contact the participants and organizers in the Memorial Day.

    Again, unless I am missing something, I think you should rephrase your statements (and in fact delete this whole matter, since it is irrelevant).

    You have put out a lot of good information, I don't think you want to risk losing credibility, do you?

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    Here's an update on SWARM (now called Silver Fox):

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/53091/1.ashx

  • jwsons
    jwsons

    Still be there:

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    Society, a religious organization, 34% by James McCann and the

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    Society to that organization but has retained a voting proxy for

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    Engine Corp. is a privately held company whose stock is reportedly

    owned 50% by The <a

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    several other shareholders. Mr. McCann has indicated that he donated

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    Society to that organization but has retained a voting proxy for

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  • family_man
    family_man

    Does anyone have any comments as to how the WTS could side step the fact that the SEC report states that this was a donation from an individual... To the free rational mind this is an obvious smoking gun,,,but I can see how a JW would use this fact to wash the WT's hands of this blatant contadictoin in their doctrine ,,,,

  • Botzwana
    Botzwana

    BUMP!

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    The letter from the Wt is misleading as anything. There are several qualifications. It is extremely misleading. Notice of any interests is crucial in securities law. Why would they add "for the kingdom." What is kingdom and what is not kingdome. By qualifying "for the kingdom" which is not any legal phrasing, they are distracting. They define kingdom but they won't tell you the definition. Anything not "kingdom work" means they own it.

    It appears that there ownership interest was acknowledged. They don't care about truth in the ordinary sense of the word. Why would anyone in their right mind see how they subvert the truth and continue to worship with them? I'm recalling John Lennon, singing Give me some truth....

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