BBC & Gary Lineker

by BoogerMan 22 Replies latest social current

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    'In particular the Secretary of State said illegal immigrants were "invading" our country' - you're talking nonsense, SBF.

    When did the Nazis say this?

    There is just no comparison to be made. The Nazis called Jews, Gypsies and Slavs 'Untermensch' (subhuman), and gassed millions to death.

    The UK, on the other hand, is trying to stop people from drowning in the English Channel.

    No comparison.

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    I'm on both sides in this debate:

    Gary Lineker broke the T's & C's laid down by the BBC - absolutely, so he deserved discipline/sacking.

    However, the BBC T's & C's regarding all employees' personal social media accounts reminds me of the org's desire to control & monitor every aspect of a JW's life, personality, & thinking.

    I suggested to someone last night that such overarching control of people's opinions & speech may be subject to legal challenges.

    Imagine your own boss telling you that he'll sack you if you ever say anything which praises the Tory Party on your Facebook page!!! Human rights, freedom of thought & speech?

    BBC Director-General Tim Davie has now made a statement about balancing the BBC's commitments to both impartiality and freedom of expression, and announced an independent review of the social media guidance.

    We'll see how this develops.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    @Boogerman

    Yes, the BBC seems to have treated Gary Lineker harshly, and I fully understand the issues around free speech.

    But, firstly, Lineker signed a contract with the BBC. And that contract must have said something about the organisation's impartiality rules.

    Secondly, the BBC is funded by the British public. Not all of them agree with Lineker's childish tweets - large swathes of the public disagree with what he said. If the Beeb is to continue receiving license fees, it must remain politically neutral as best as it can. Lineker keeps taking a giant shit on that.

  • cofty
    cofty
    Imagine your own boss telling you that he'll sack you if you ever say anything which praises the Tory Party on your Facebook page!!! Human rights, freedom of thought & speech?

    The difference is that the BBC isn't a normal employer. Literally every UK citizen who owns a TV set is obliged by law to pay Linekar's wages.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    Of course, there is one way that will solve this whole issue at a single stroke - stop the license fee, and let the Beeb compete in the real world against Sky, Amazon, Netflix, etc.

    That way, Lineker can be as impartial as he likes on social media.

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    The way I see this is that's it's only TV. It won't cure cancer, it won't stop heart disease or contribute anything positive to human society.

    I don't care about a champagne socialist or 2 who live in luxury in a 'white people' area having an opinion. All he and his cohorts do is to tell you what you already saw on TV. I wonder why they think they're so important?

    It's only TV. Isn't this how the media likes to shock and divide us?

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    Woo hoo. Double post. One more and it's a hat trick!

    But we need Gary the crisp salesman to tell us all about it.

  • jhine
    jhine

    LUHE, yes , we pay his wages through the license fee . Yes , a lot of people disagree with what he said .

    However in a free world someone should be able to express an opinion that we may not like ( as long as it's not inciting hate crime etc ) .

    That , of course doesn't change the fact that he broke his contract which is the issue at hand here.

    Jan

  • cofty
    cofty

    The BBC needs to address the bias in its current affairs reporting.

    The anti-Brexit stance was embarrassing. It's total failure to challenge the narrative during COVID was shameful. The entire organisation is an echo chamber.

    All the staff, in front of and behind the cameras, are from the same middle class background and graduated the same university indoctrination mills.

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    In the USA similar workplace rules exist for many in public employment. My wife and I signed similar contracts. I was disciplined for a conversation I had with a member of the public (turned out to be related to city council member) wherein I disagreed with the use of funds for a park no one wanted. Private employers can similarly limit personal expression. A local soda bottler has a workplace rule prohibiting the drinking of a competitor's product at work on your lunch break.

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