Conscription FEARS to END? Jehovah's Witnesses in EUROPE?

by raymond frantz 13 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    https://www.jwupdates.com/post/conscription-fears-across-europe-could-end-jehovah-s-witnesses


    As the clouds of war are gathering fast over the European continent many countries including Britain are contemplating a return to conscription and some form of mandatory military service. Considering the fact that the Watchtower fought long and hard especially in Europe for the right of its believers to abstain from military service it is very interesting to see how this new development will affect the Watchtower across Europe. To my understanding it depends in which European country you reside. In countries like France, Germany or Britain where large populations a form of secular service will be accepted as an alternative to serving in the army (such as working as a firefighter) whereas in other countries with small populations this will not be allowed as an alternative and prison sentences will return at a minimum to counteract public feeling and entanglement. With that in mind this issue will become another explosive situation fir the Watchtower and its membership since most your male Jehovah’s Witnesses will think twice before they decide to become the martyr for the Watchtower.

    Here are some recent quotes from across Europe in regards to this recent development.

    Canon fodder?

    “Europe’s armed forces, particularly those on the border with Russia, now realise they don't have enough manpower,” said Vincenzo Bove, professor of political science at Warwick University, who specialises in conscription. "They clearly see conscription as a solution to that."

    “Whether this is a good idea in terms of deterring a potential Russian invasion, we’re not really sure,” he continued, suggesting there was a lack of evidence about the effectiveness of conscript armies compared to regular forces.

    Owing to the complexity of modern warfare, Bove questioned if conscripts could be properly trained to use the advanced equipment or tactics employed today in the short time available.

    Besides economic concerns about the inefficiency of compulsory military service – with massive numbers of people prevented from doing something where they could be more productive – Bove raised ethical concerns about sending civilians into battle with little experience.

    Having served in the Italian Navy for 15 years, he said: “Three years isn't enough to teach the basics of warfare… even using basic weapons requires a lot of training.”

    “Some countries are talking about three-month programmes… that’s nothing. They won't even learn how to salute,” Bove added in jest.

    https://www.jwupdates.com/post/conscription-fears-across-europe-could-end-jehovah-s-witnesses

  • jhine
    jhine

    I would like to know where he got that from . It just seems to be his own opinion.

    Jan from Tam

  • Mikejw
    Mikejw

    Here in the UK all the papers and news is talking about conscription coming back.

    I think the situation is far worse than most realise and war between east and west is inevitable. It’s kind of already started but in a couple of years it will be clear. UK&USA plus Israel and their allies against Russia&China and the Muslim countries plus their allies.

    m China are waiting for the West to run out of resources fighting for Ukraine and the Middle East problems before they choose the ideal time to retake Taiwan.

    Yes there will be a conscription in most countries. There will be alternatives like working in hospitals or firefighting.

    Or go to prison which many brothers will do because they feel working in other area’s support the war effort.

    I can see this in a few years from now

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    I did read something in the news where a British military bod was saying than in his view the army was too small and would need additional conscription in a time of war . However such a thing is a political hot potato. If such a programme was introduced the political backlash would be enormous and politicians are too afraid of being voted out .

    It is all speculation by military types anyway.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Know what’s really freaky?

    In Star Trek lore, WW3 kicks off in 2026.

  • Elmer
    Elmer

    I had forgot about that until your post Vidiot. What a trip!

  • jhine
    jhine

    I am in the UK and can't say that l am aware of all the news and papers talking about it .

    Jan from Tam

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz
    • jhine
      jhine28 minutes ago

      I am in the UK and can't say that l am aware of all the news and papers talking about it .

      Jan from Tam

    Yes it was on many newspapers, GBN news, BBC etc

  • Mikejw
    Mikejw

    Jan you must have your head under a rock.

    How could you possibly not know?

    Its in all the papers. All the news everywhere has had this as one of the top stories. The Metro in London has a big spread with lots of opinions. They think the new woke agenda conscription will not work.

    They say the woke these days if called up for conscription would want to have gender neutral clothes be wrapped up in cotton wool, stay in bed until they felt like getting up and then winge and cry that it’s not fair the Russians are shooting at us🤣

    Hard times create hard men, then hard men create soft time. Soft times create soft men and then soft men create hard time and the cycle repeats.

    We have a society of soft men now and next comes hard times.

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd

    I live in the 3rd fattest country on the planet. I’d hate to think what would happen if they implemented that here. A good number can hardly walk to the fridge, net alone fight a war. WTF.

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