Prime Roast is not a bad name
Is there a new rule regarding disfellowshipped people?
by HOTB 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
-
-
EisMe
- +1 / -1
Ugot2bekiddingme15 hours agoI was DF'd, No great loss. I don't give a rats azz about Watchtower 's new policies or any Jw's . My life and circle of friends and family has greatly improved without Jwism.
Does Leaving JWism mean you no longer believe in God? Who do you serve, an organization, or God?
E.
-
Ugot2bekiddingme1
EisMe- I don't think The Watchtower has a handle on the Questions of The Universe. I still have hope that God or the high forces that made earth and humans show us the way with no mystery.
-
jhine
So you can only be " removed" for 90 days?
Jan from Tam
-
Earnest
jhine : So you can only be " removed" for 90 days?
In the 2024 Governing Body Update #2 changes in the disfellowshipping arrangement were outlined. Amongst those changes it was said (@ 10:00) that when someone is disfellowshipped/removed it would be explained to them that the committee would like to meet with the individual "after a few months" to see if s/he has had a change of heart. This is repeated in the August 2024 Watchtower study article, para.6. However, in the March 2024 document "Adjustments to Handling Serious Wrongdoing" it was more specific. It said (para.15) :
If the individual is not an apostate or actively promoting wrongdoing, [the elders] will also inform him that they would like to meet with him again in three months to determine if he has had a change of heart. In some cases, but not all, the committee may determine that there is a basis for reinstating the individual at that time. On the other hand, if he has not had a change of heart or if additional time is needed (see the special caution in paragraph 16), the elders will endeavor to reach out to him every six months if he is agreeable, unless he requests reinstatement before that time.
So, essentially, you are removed from the congregation until such time as you are repentant. It can be as short as three months, it can be a lifetime.
Paragraph 16 : Although a repentant individual should be reinstated without delay, such sins as child abuse, apostasy, and scheming to end a marriage require special caution. (2 Pet. 2:9, 10).
-
blondie
Thanks, Earnest, for sharing that.
-
JohnR1975
The big change is that it used to be the case that the disfellowshipped person would have to contact the eldest and ask them and they would have to make effort and show the elders that they wanted to come back
The change now is at the elders are to all the chasing after three months the elders have to beg the disfellowship person to come back.
it has taken so long for this change for for such a long time now the person had to beg and grovel to the elders and you lose all dignity and sometimes the elders would still say no. You have to wait a bit longer and show us we tell you what you have to do.
Now they are really struggling at retaining numbers so now the elders have to do all the chasing to try and get people to come back every CEO visit the circuit overseer will scolded the elders. Why haven’t you done enough chasing all these ones leaving begging them to come back after three months.
-
ballistic
What makes this so fascinating is, for those of us who were DF, our lives hung in the balance and we waited on every word a phraseology for what was going to happen to us. And how it changed our lives. My life took on a completely different and sometimes troublesome turn that you wouldn't believe. So, of course, when they tinker with the terms used and arrangements for DF, it does have great impact.
-
Biahi
John’s, this is so interesting! The ELDERS are having to go after the DFd ones to beg them to come back? What a change! Are the rank and file members talking about this?
-
Vidiot
Ten bucks says too many BoEs were finding too many pretexts to DF too many folks, and the WT leadership got scared that the rank-and-file were running dry.