"Peer reviewed creation science journal". Okay, if that is your source for the above. \
The Ica stones are a collection of andesite stones with engraved motifs created as a work of art in the 1960s by Peruvian farmer Basilo Uschuya
Dinosaur Soft Tissue
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Sea Breeze
How did the Inca stone artists know how to depict dermal patterns and cartridge frills that were unknown in the 1960's?
You believe that hundreds of dinosaur depictions from every corner of the globe over thousands of years were the result of ancient dinosaur bone excavations? Where is the evidence for this?
Without evidence, it's just another "Just So" story designed to save a paradigm in crisis. I do understand that paradigms are very hard to let go of once entrenched in specific world-views.
Notwithstanding, the description in Job 41 rules out Leviathan as a mythical creature. The passage describes where Leviathan lived (in the sea but sometimes on shore). It had armor scaling that was so tightly-knit that no air could pass between (capable of deflecting spears). It left luminescent wakes and had a mouth that was ringed with terrorizing teeth. We know from Psalm 104 that Leviathan “played around in ancient shipping lanes.” Few doubt the reality of the horse, ostrich, eagle, goat, and other animals that God described for Job along with Leviathan. The Bible places Leviathan in a realistic context.
So if Leviathan isn't a dinosaur, what is it.? While many extinct fossil candidates have been proposed over the years, Sarcosuchus or Spinosaurus known from fossils may fit. Sarcosuchus was massive (36–39 ft) that may have weighed up to nine tons and had a sail-like fin on its back. Its length surpassed even the Tyrannosaurus.
One possibility pointed out by Brian Thomas is a giant creature that was on display in ancient Rome. He wrote:
In his book The Authenticity of the Book of Jonah, historian Bill Cooper relayed a passage from Pliny the Elder’s Natural History: ‘The bones of this monster, to which Andromeda was said to have been exposed, were brought by Marcus Scaurus from Joppa in Judaea during his aedileship and shown at Rome among the rest of the amazing items displayed. The monster was over 40 feet long, and the height of its ribs was greater than that of Indian elephants, while its spine was 1-1/2 feet thick.’
The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth…. Every country had them in its mythology.” (Lindall, Carl, “Dragon,” The World Book Encyclopedia, vol. 5, 1996, p. 265-266.)
Funny how "every country" believed in dinosaurs (dragons) and came up with the same myth.
Secularists have way more faith than Christians. I certainly don't have that kind of faith. -
Touchofgrey
https://mythos-and-legends.fandom.com/wiki/Leviathan
Leviathan is a mythological character
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Touchofgrey
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/are-dragons-real
dragons are not real .
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Sea Breeze
dragons are not real
Sure they are. Anyone, can view the head of this spectacular creature at the Children's Museum in Indianapolis
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Touchofgrey
It's a dinosaur dated from 95 -65 million years ago.
Not a dragon.
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Anony Mous
How did the Inca stone artists know how to depict dermal patterns and cartridge frills that were unknown in the 1960's?
Dinosaurs were pretty well known in the 1960s - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053768/ And one of the 'problems' with the stones is that they depict things such as the things you mention that we now know today are wrong and were based on late 1800s to early 1900s understanding of the fossil record. So they could not have been older than 1800s or from people co-habiting with dinosaurs. Also, one of them depicts a human riding a pterodactyl-like creature, something its size and hollow bone structure would not be able to support (basically, humans riding griffins or flying dinosaurs is not possible given the mechanical structure of birds/eagles, something, again, even the JW "Evolution" book got wrong, at one point in the late 1800s it was thought they would be unable to fly due to their size, then we invented bigger planes and came to understand they had feathers and not leather). -
Earnest
Good to see Sea Breeze has a sense of humour.
The "dragon" is Dracorex hogwartsia (palaeontologists also have a sense of humour), dating back to the Late Cretaceous, 66 million years ago. See Are Dragons Real for further details.
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Sea Breeze
The Ica Stones are interesting artifacts that fall under the umbrella of dinosaur art from all over the world, spanning millennia:
In 1966, Professor Cabrera received one such carved stone as a birthday present. In the same year, Santiago Agurto Calvo, an architect, carried out archaeological excavations in Ica. He repeatedly unearthed engraved stones. Calvo became convinced that the engravings originated from artists of pre-Inca times. He tried in vain to arouse the interest of mainstream archaeology for the mysterious finds.
Prof. Cabrera explaining his collection. (© Walter-Jörg Langbein)
Professor Cabrera continuously received engraved stones, especially from people who were grateful that he had helped them without asking payment for his services. Soon, the famous son of the town of Ica developed a genuine passion for collecting. Over the years, the hundreds of engraved drawings grew to thousands. Professor Javier Cabrera Darquea, who gave lectures at the Universidad Nacional San Luis Gonzaga soon realized that, aside from the plain, geometrical designs, the images depicted plants and animals from prehistoric times. There were clearly identifiable saurians that had been carved into the stone surfaces.
Some stones feature saurian-like creatures. (© Walter Langbein)
How were pre-Inca people supposed to have known what dinosaurs looked like?
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Anony Mous
Again, the stones were PAINTED around 1960 they are an art project at best, but people in the ancient aliens circles have been passing them around as artifacts, so they are in that context a hoax.
Yes, some are real, the real ones depict fish and flowers, someone received one of those ancient stone, that did not depict a dinosaur, thought it was cool and replicated them with dinosaurs, planes and other designs basically for a tourist gift shop trinket.
Then someone from the ancient aliens circle, picked it up, held it up as evidence that Inca's had planes, UFO's and rode dinosaurs (which the dinosaur thing is what the young earth creationists picked out from what some of the above writers included).
If the bible includes descriptions of UFOs, people riding dinosaurs, feel free to include that evidence too, although you quickly get into the problem of whether aliens are chosen by God as well or just the Jews.
