I would like to apologize for coming off so hard on you. I really fell into doing what i have often told others not to do and that is to dog a new person on the net- sometimes one gets carried away esp after one has done the level of research on the org that myself and many many many others have done
so sometime when a person like yourself comes on the net and makes a comment about the org, that WE KNOW IS NOT TRUE - instead of helping you or anyone else to see where we got our info and and more importantly allowing a person to DIGEST this info
i recall for myself how hard it was being a former elder and bethelite it was to accept that certain men i know personlly at bethel can stand before others and teach the things that we do
you mentioned THE GENERATION DOGMA CHANGE- for me this was what caused me to take stock in what i have been taught
i used to give a public talk as 25, 30, 35 yr old man and there was this little part in the talk were i use to interject the comment "THAT I WILL NEVER GROW OLD IN THIS SYSTEM"
I used to slow my talk down and highlight the FACT that i could say that because bro you and i can put our COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN Jah word and Org. In fact for anyone who has every seen me do this talk knows that i used to hold up AS PROOF the May 15, 1984 WT- on the cover is the article
THE GENERATION OF 1914 THAT WILL NOT DIE OFF-
i recall this mag so well cause i was at bethel serving in a congregation up in Harlem which is like the World Capital of Black folks- smile I recall the mag cause so many of the pioneers got BLASTED for the cover- many jw doing street work carry little plastic sleevs to put mags in so as they approach a person - they can see the latest mag- well on the cover was 12-15 OLD WHITE BETHELITES and NO BLACKS------------ representing the 1914 gen and the Black Muslium from the Nation of Isslam WENT OFF- dogging us for working for the White Man- smile
and till this day i will never forget this mag for it's CONTENT AND COVER
WHAT HURt ME the most was the FACT that as far back as 1979 the Writing Dept/GBs knew that there was NO SCRIPTURAL BASIS for that doctrine , yet you and i contined to preach and stand before 10's of 1000's like i did at conventions centers and reassure the jw who quit their jobs or like myself gave up college ( did you know i would have graduated with Micheal Jordan from UNC the same year on an engineering scholarship) i turned it down to go to bethel instead- gave up kids, retirement,. and so many life joys we put off- believing that due to such a shorttime IT WOULD BE ALL WORTH IT
I used to commend folks, i used to be commended for making such choices BASED ON THIS BIBLE BASED DOGMA
and now to find out that it was all a lie, is sad- so at that point i started to look into things, coming on the net much like you - i was a dyed in the wool SOCIETY MAN- all the bro in my circuit knew me for one phrase i used all the time when an issue came up"
"What does the Slave say in Print?"-
this was a phrase that many young black bro were taught at bethel by 3 of the most important black men at bethel - JR Brown(PR spokesman), RP Johnson (WT troubleshooter) Leon Weaver ( Mega Heavy in the Service Dept) when i was there--
the reason was if you were challenging a white bro, this is the only way you could win --to INVOKE the Slave as your basis- JUST SOME BEHIND THE SCENE INFO--
at any rate-- this "One issue" started me to look at the formation and basis for other doctrines
and what i found was heart breaking,
i read of many folks exp here on the net and they talk about how badly they were treated by elders, co and other jw- THAT WAS NOT THE CASE FOR ME
I was well treated and loved, i was part of the congo "In crowd"- we had 5 former bethelites on the body of elders, we had a former Bethelite/Missionary/ Branch committe member- who is a CORP voting MEMBER of the WT Corp--he goes to NY each first week of OCT to vote,
as a result we were always teaming with Bethel speakers and heavy weights- so my wife and I were on the fast track CO work was within our grasp, we were always being told- get on the Pioneer list so I can submit your name James is what the CO would say - in fact most of our CO were FORMER BETHELITES-
so when they came to visit everyone knew the gathering to be invited to was the one with all the elders/co and heavy boys-
well my wife and i tried to include the fatherless boys , single women, and single parents in many functions and gatherings and we would get dogged WHY ARE THEY HERE????
AND FOR me it was a child hood dream, you see my mom was a black woman with 4 kids and no husbands, we found out about the gatherings on SUNDAY , we never got invited, my mom was a fine looking woman and many of the elders wives thought my mom was after THEIR MAN-
WELL the org told single parent women to go to the elders with issues since they had no spiritual head, yet my dad was a hard working man- he was discounted cause he thought it was stupid to use EVERY SINGLE SAT FOR CHURCH STUFF and then do more church stuff on sunday-
So i vowed that if i ever became an elder i would include all those who got cut short in the congo
so my wife and i would take 5-10 folks with us when i gave talks outside the hall
many would tell us they have been jw for 30yrs and was NEVER INVITED BY AN ELDER to go visit another hall-
my point being ----------for me it was not mistreat that cause me to reexamine things
i was strictly a DOCTRINE MAN- it was either supported by the bible or the boys in writing were making it up as they went along and the more i read the more i saw stuff literally just being made up
i was told by the old timer on the net to just ask the question:
"Does this look like something that god would direct to be given as instructions, not only to jw, but since we preach to ALL OF MANKIND"
and i kept on coming up with no as an answer-
case in point - to df a woman because she divorced her husband for Fu#king the Dog was a violation of gods divine will-
does that sound like a dogma backed up by god??
so i commend you for at least being brave enought to share with us your very personall exp of seeking professional help-
it almost is sad to think that you can tell us here about your situation and we will not judge you while if this same information was known in your hall - it would be viewed as a sign of you being spirituall weak- how sad
i wish you will my friend you have come to the right place, THE NET "THANG"
sO PLEASE ACCEPT MY COMING OFF SO HARD- i can't speak for others, each must do that themselves- in the past i have often dogged former jw for being to hard on new persons , literally scaring folks away, and yet i find myself at times doing what i condemn-
I'm sorry and i apologize
i will say this --once you have educated yourself on WHAT AND WHY we have believed the things we have
you will find a freedom that words can't describe-
i recall being the SEC in my hall and having to listen to old friends cry on the phone cause all they had was 1 hour of time-
to think that we have a god who requires folks 85yrs old to feel guilty after serving him for 70yrs just because they could not GET THE NATIONAL AVG in field service is sad-
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The Freedom to Think means:
"I'd rather have Questions that I can't Answer ----Than Questions, I can't Ask.
(or Answers that I can't Question)."