Congrats Australia votes yes gay marriage! Awesome!

by Witness 007 12 Replies latest jw experiences

  • steve2
    steve2

    Meanwhile, nearby, New Zealand's parliament voted in the Marriage Equality Act about five years ago.

    Now our Aussie LBGTs won't have to cross the ditch to get married. Well done Australia.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    Just a sidelight - but I need to background it, for all you 'non-Aussies.'

    First we have,Tony Abbott. A former (very) conservative Prime Minister ( a bit like one D.Trump), who was dumped by his own party when surveys started showing voters were starting to think he was a dickhead. Tony does have a gay sister, but was probably the highest profile campaigner for a 'NO vote', even though his own daughter publically announced she would vote YES!!

    Now Tony, who in his student days gained a reputation for slamming opponents in student politics, against walls and threatening them with worse, was also once a novice priest and is still very much a supporter of the church.

    Tony, in his younger days also gained a reputation for liking to be photographed in his swimming briefs (that Aussies often refer to as "budgie smugglers," as in this pik:

    What did that particular peculiarity really mean? Sorry I just don't get it.

    Now the second man. Here we have a man who was once Australia's highest profile catholic, and having come under some unwelcome suspicion as having had a specific liking for younger boys, found himself promoted to be the catholic church's top money man at the vatican. This is Cardinal George Pell in all his glorious finery.

    and ....

    I don't know if Georgie boy did anything to any kid, but certainly it seems that he likely knew of priests who did, and did nothing to prevent it. I guess the current court hearing will decide the validity of any police information.

    Georgie boy and Tony were good friends. Tony took a lot of notice of what George thought and said, and recently dismissed the allegations of possible child abuse, telling us that George was a really fine man. Some people saw the relationship differently as the satirical image explains:

    So to come (at last) to the point, after the successful YES vote announcement on wednesday, an artist painted this picture on a wall, at Newtown's ( a gay locality) Botany View Hotel.


    Within hours some (apparently) Christian Terrorists arrived and white-washed the Cardinal Pell caricature in the painting, but leaving the Tony A image untouched.

    Apparently, some Christians are sore losers, but I guess most of us learnt that quite some time ago.

  • shepherdless
    shepherdless

    I am not a fan of either Tony Abbott or Cardinal Pell, but I just feel I have to correct a few things in FTS’s post.

    First we have,Tony Abbott. A former (very) conservative Prime Minister ( a bit like one D.Trump),
    D Trump and T Abbott are not alike. Abbot is a career politician and an ideologically conservative one. Trump is not a real conservative. He is a populist who says things that appeal to a conservative base.

    Now Tony, who in his student days gained a reputation for slamming opponents in student politics, against walls and threatening them with worse, was also once a novice priest and is still very much a supporter of the church.
    This “reputation” comes from one allegation by one person about one incident that allegedly happened on a University campus, first reported (I think in David Marr’s biography of Tony Abbott) about 20 years after the event. Abbott denied it, and nobody else says they saw it took place. Yes, Abbott trained to be a Jesuit priest, and quit. I don’t know to what extent he could be said to be “supporter of the church” but 2 things make me doubt that:
    1. Even David Marr, who is about as anti-Abbott as you can get, and documented Abbott’s long career in politics, said Abbott was a completely secular politician.
    2. When the Royal Commission into Child Abuse was announced, Tony Abbott, as leader of the opposition, immediately supported it, and it became a bi-partisan project. That is significant, given he pretty much opposed everything else the government of the day tried to do.

    and having come under some unwelcome suspicion as having had a specific liking for younger boys
    I have not previously read any suggestion to that effect. The criticism of Pell is that, in his role, he must have known there was a problem and he didn’t act, or he acted to cover it up.

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