new and confused

by michaelcabral 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • Steel


    No one is getting the fact that Jehovah is referring to god as a separate person in that verse?

  • Magnum

    Steel, I got it. See my first post on this thread. I don't know whether my answer to the issue is correct, but I got the issue.

  • Magnum

    michaelcabral: "how do we know the whole book isn't being translated correctly?"

    I think that translation is not much of an issue in many parts of the Bible, but in some it is, and I think you are justified in voicing that concern.

    Also, how does one even know that the 66 books that make up the Bible that most of us are familiar with are the "right" ones. They were chosen out of many. Do you trust those who did the choosing? Why, for example, was the book of Enoch not included?

  • Earnest

    I'm not quite sure why you think this might be a misprint or mistranslation, michaelcabral.

    Amos 3:9,10 says:

    ...“Gather together against the mountains of Sa·marʹi·a; See the turmoil in her midst And the defrauding within her. For they do not know how to do what is right,” declares Jehovah, “Those who are storing up violence and destruction in their fortified towers.”’

    Amos 3:14,15 says:

    ‘For in the day I call Israel to account for all his revolts, I will also call for an accounting against the altars of Bethʹel; The horns of the altar will be cut off and fall to the earth. I will strike down the winter house along with the summer house.’ ‘The houses of ivory will perish, And the great houses will come to their end,’ declares Jehovah.”

    Amos 4:1 says:

    “Hear this word, you cows of Baʹshan, Who are on the mountain of Sa·marʹi·a, You women who are defrauding the lowly and crushing the poor, Who say to their husbands, ‘Bring us something to drink!’

    So, basically God is saying Israel has a lot to answer for.

    Then he says, in Amos 4:7,8:

    ‘I also withheld rain from you three months before the harvest; I made it rain on one city but not on another city. One plot of land would have rain, But another plot of land where there was no rain would dry up. People of two or three cities staggered to one city to drink water, And they would not get satisfied; But you did not come back to me,’ declares Jehovah.

    In Amos 4:9:

    ‘I struck you with scorching heat and mildew. You multiplied your gardens and vineyards,But the locust would devour your fig trees and olive trees; And you still did not come back to me,’ declares Jehovah.

    In Amos 4:10:

    ‘I sent among you a pestilence like that of Egypt. With the sword I killed your young men and captured your horses. I made the stench of your camps rise up into your nostrils; But you did not come back to me,’ declares Jehovah.

    In Amos 4:11:

    ‘I caused an overthrow among you Like God’s overthrow of Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah. And you were like a log snatched out of the fire; But you did not come back to me,’ declares Jehovah.

    So he is just reminding them that past punishments have been ineffective. Then he says

    Because this is what I will do to you, Get ready to meet your God, O Israel.

    Of course if you're asking why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, Genesis 18:20 states :

    Then Jehovah said: “The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy".

    It seems from the experience of Lot and the angels that this included rape of males and females but it could also have included many other sins which merited their destruction.

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