Supreme Court of Canada Rules in Favor of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by pale.emperor 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    Interesting how Watchtower have twisted whats actually happened and how they've presented it to their members:

    From https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/canada/supreme-court-rules-20180531/

    In a unanimous decision released on May 31, 2018, the Supreme Court of Canada recognized that the disfellowshipping arrangement should remain free from court intervention. We rejoice in this vindication of Jehovah’s righteous standards.—Isaiah 33:22.

    https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/17101/index.do

    First of all, the court ruled that intervention fell out of their juristiction - it nowhere stated that they agree with this practice.

    Secondly, the interveners in the court case were representatives of other churches. So it's "satans" churches that have actually ruled this. Namely:

    Canadian Council of Christian Charities,

    Association for Reformed Political Action Canada,

    Canadian Constitution Foundation,

    Evangelical Fellowship of Canada,

    Catholic Civil Rights League,

    Christian Legal Fellowship,

    World Sikh Organization of Canada,

    Seventh‑day Adventist Church in Canada,

    Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms,

    Church of Jesus Christ of Latter‑day Saints in Canada,

    British Columbia Civil Liberties Association and

    Canadian Muslim Lawyers Association

    Thirdly, the court case was conducted with witnesses present, the judge and jury were two separate entities and the interveners had no conflict of interest - totally the opposite of how Watchtower carries out judicial committees! Imagine how outraged Watchtower would be if they were treated the same as a JC.

    Fourthly, this is the same supreme court in which a Watchtower lawyer lied about the disfellowshipping arrangement - stating that families ties stay in place and it's only spiritual association that is effected.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoKtHRdQnk

  • Sliced
    Sliced

    Thank you Pale--- I just put together the exact same grouping of info to send over to my brother in law who is an active PIMI elder... Not sure if it will make any difference, but figured I might as well try! Its on their website!

  • Earnest
    Earnest

    The statement that the Supreme Court of Canada recognized that the disfellowshipping arrangement should remain free from court intervention is correct. In paragraph 39 the court concludes :

    In the end, religious groups are free to determine their own membership and rules; courts will not intervene in such matters save where it is necessary to resolve an underlying legal dispute.

    The fact that the courts will not intervene should not be confused with the interveners to which you refer.

    In law, intervention is a procedure to allow a nonparty, called an intervener, to join ongoing litigation without the permission of the original litigants. The basic rationale for intervention is that a judgment in a particular case may affect the rights of nonparties, who ideally should have the right to be heard.

    It is the courts who will not intervene in ecclesiastical matters, not

    • · the Canadian Council of Christian Charities,
    • · the Association for Reformed Political Action Canada,
    • · the Canadian Constitution Foundation,
    • · the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada,
    • · the Catholic Civil Rights League,
    • · the Christian Legal Fellowship,
    • · the World Sikh Organization of Canada,
    • · the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Canada,
    • · the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms,
    • · the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Canada,
    • · the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association or the
    • · Canadian Muslim Lawyers Association.

    who would not want the courts intervening in their own ecclesiastical matters.

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    I understand that Earnest. But what I'm getting at is the way JW.borg have reported it is as if the courts regard disfellowshiping and it's consequences as just and not a big deal.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    I think with the WT attorney stated must be “NEW LIGHT”!

    after all, it’s the most recent statement on the subject of disfellowshipped been from an official representative of WT society. That’s all those old rules about not taking cell phone calls or emails is OLD LIGHT and no longer applies.

    So to anyone who is a lurker or fader who is accused by the elders of refusing to shun family members, here is your defense— NEW LIGHT from the WT attorney given under oath in a court of law — family relationships remain UNCHANGED — except for spiritual conversation!

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    If you don't want the possible pain of being disfellowshipped--don't join this stupid JW club in the first place.

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister
    Fourthly, this is the same supreme court in which a Watchtower lawyer lied about the disfellowshipping arrangement - stating that families ties stay in place and it's only spiritual association that is effected.

    I wanted to make a post about this.

    Why hasn't this man been struck off the bar or the solicitors professional body for perjuring himself???

    Canada can look at the ARC where it's on record Witnesses shun everyone including family members. Or videos produced by the borg??

    That man's mouth was so dry he could barely speak he KNEW what he was doing but feared loosing his partnership where Watchtower are the main clients.


  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    "...Watchtower Lawyer Lies in Court About Shunning..."

    Once again, for the newbies, lurkers, and trolls...

    ...if you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don't deserve to be defended.

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