Fallacies in the article on war at Awake! No. 5 2017

by Master_Bob 11 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Master_Bob

    Why did ancient Israel go to war?


    The Israelites worshipped a bloodthirsty “tribal war god.”


    The nations whom Israel defeated were thoroughly corrupted by violence and depraved practices​—including bestiality, incest, and child sacrifice. After giving them centuries to change their ways, God said: “It is by all these things that the nations that I am driving out from before you have made themselves unclean.”​—Leviticus 18:21-25; Jeremiah 7:31.

    Writer intends to show that what the Bible says proves wrong what people say. But is that so?

    The other nations were more corrupt than Israel only by the standards of the Law. By contemporary moral principles they were no worse.

    • Today halal killing of the animals, as described in the Law, is considered as inhumane treatment.
    • Incest or any other sexual activity between consenting adults is not regulated in many liberal states.
    • There is at least one case of child sacrifice mentioned in the Bible, so Israelites were no better.

    On the other hand the nations didn't stone to death people that collected wood on the wrong weekday. So if I was Baal I would feel more than justified to say:

    “It is because of the wickedness of Israelites that Baal your God is driving them away from before you.”​—Tritonomy 9:5.

  • LoveUniHateExams

    Why did ancient Israel go to war? - same old bullshit: my God is better than your God.


  • stuckinarut2

    So if they went to war to combat those practices of the "evil nations", why did they do the same sort of activities?

    I mean, their own young were killed in wars. Their own young girls were taken as child brides and subjugated . Their own God demanded endless animal blood sacrifices.

    What discernable difference was there between "gods people" and the surrounding nations?


  • ttdtt

    Anyone who says doG was bloodthirsty is just Dishonest!

    What all powerful all knowing all loving all understanding all just deity - wouldn't have the Bellies of pregnant mothers of people who weren't Israelites slashed open?

    I mean making sure you murder every woman who has ever F%cked a man is just plain common sense?

    It would be so UNLOVING to take MILFS in as Sex Slaves. Think of the psychological stress an Israelite man would have if after raping his new Slave, she told him her Canaanite husband had a bigger dick?

    I just dont get how people dont see doGs love in the matter?

  • truth_b_known

    The history of the re-imaged Caananites...er...Israelites is a hard pill to swallow. When YHWH turns out to actually be part of the Baal pantheon of gods (El) it is like pulling the rug out from under the feet of both Judaism and Christianity.

  • steve2

    Watchtower writers follow the principle well known to Hitler:

    If seek to legitimate the mass slaughter of a people, including babies, dehumanize, dehumanize, dehumanize them.

    Accuse not the God of the Bible of being a bloodthirsty genocidal maniac; instead focus on what people did to "deserve" His wrath, babes in arms included.

    Oh, and whilst some individuals undoubtedly did particpate in depraved practicises such as bestiality and child sacrifice, not every single inhabitant did. Which makes tragically bizarre the Jehovian command to his people to wipe out all inhabitants, including babies, from the "Promised Land".

    So allegedly in response to a people practising child sacrifice, you slaughter their children?

    Awake writers - man are you sick in your collusion with "divine" blood fests.

  • freddo


    The Israelites worshipped a bloodthirsty “tribal war god.”

    Yup! That's about it. Read Judges 19 through 21 if you don't believe me.

  • Crazyguy

    This reminds me of a chapter in I think Jerimiah where he, Jerimiah, is telling the people to put away their worship of Ashurah and worship only Jehovah. Their response is no way when we do things for her and worship her good things happen when we worship Jehovah it's implied that nothing good comes from it.

  • jwleaks

    So jehovah orders the killing in Canaan every single innocent baby and little child to punish the Canaanites for their deplorable and wicked practice of killing innocent babies and little children.

    Yet today, jehovah also plans to kill in Armageddon every single innocent baby and little child of all the parents that refuses to accept his self-justification for killing every single innocent baby and little child in Canaan.

  • smiddy

    It has surprised me why the established Christian religion under constantine didnt just discard the " Old Testament " as irrelevant to the christianity that was now emerging.

    Thankfully he didnt however as we would have little ammo to show the hypocricy contained in the whole bible.

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