Old Light - New Light: Changes in WT Doctrine

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  • NewLight2
    NewLight2

    Let's see StillIn explain WHY these flip-flops occur in WT doctrine, if it is "TheTruth"

    OLD LIGHT - NEW LIGHT

    ORGAN TRANSPLANTS
    1967-1980: prohibited as "cannibalism" WT 11/15/67 p.702
    Since 1980 - permitted WT 3/15/80 p.31

    VACCINATIONS
    1931-1952 Prohibited as being a "direct violation of the everlasting covenant."
    Golden Age 2/4/31 p.293
    Since 1952 - permitted WT 12/15/52 p.764and AWAKE! 8/22/65 p.20

    ORGANIZATION - ITS IMPORTANCE
    1893 - No organization today WT 1893 p.266
    1894 - Not part of the Lord's plan. WT 12/1/1894 p. 384
    1895 - Beware of organization WT 9-15-1895 p.216
    1955 - Respect the organization Qualified to be Ministers, 1955, p.380
    1957 - Obedience to organization. WT 5/1/57 p.274
    1972 - Submit to headship (Governing Body) WT 12-15-72 p.755
    1983 - Essential part of the Lord's plan WT 2/15/83 p.12

    PYRAMIDOLOGY
    Prior to 1928 - "God's Stone Witness and Prophet" Used to predict dates Thy Kingdom Come, 1891, p.313, 16, 17, 342, 362
    Since 1928 - Satan's Bible; not God's Stone Witness. WT 11/15/28 p.344
    1928 - Satan's Bible WT 11-15-28 p.841
    1930 - Just a pile of stones Light II, 1930, p.286

    ROMANS 13:1 - WHO ARE THE "SUPERIOR AUTHORITIES?"
    1886 - Earthly governments Divine Plan of the Ages, 1886, p.266
    1889 - Earthly governments Time Is At Hand, 1889, p.81
    1932-1963: God and Christ Vindication, Vol. 3, 1932, p.13 and The Truth Shall
    Make You Free, 1943, p.312
    1952 - God and Christ Let God Be True, 1952, p.248
    1959 - God and Christ Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, p.91
    1963 - Earthly political governments WT 1/1/63 p.31
    1975 - Earthly political governments 1975 Yearbook, p.238 1980 - Earthly political governments WT 5/15/80 p.4

    THE REVELATION NAMES "APOLLYON" AND "ABADDON"
    Refers to Satan - The Finished Mystery, p.159
    Refers to Jesus Christ - Then Is Finished the Mystery of God, p.232

    WHO IS "THE TRUE LORD?"
    Jesus Christ WT 9-15-83 p.19
    Jehovah God WT 7-1-89 p.30

    THE "ALPHA AND OMEGA"OF REVELATION 22:12
    Refers to Jehovah God - AWAKE! 8/22/78 p.28
    Refers to Jesus Christ - WT 10/1/78 p.15
    ( A major change in just 2 months!)

    WHO IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL?
    Not the Son of God - WT November, 1879, p.4
    Jesus not an angel - WT March, 1883, p.456
    The Pope of Rome - The Finished Mystery, 1926 Edition, p.188
    Jesus Christ, the Son of God - Reasoning From the Scriptures, 1985, p.218

    SAYING "HELLO" TO DISFELLOWSHIPPED MEMBERS?
    1970 NO WT 6/1/70 p.352
    1972 NO Organization for Kingdom Preaching..., 1972, p.172
    1974 YES WT 8/1/74 pp.464,465 1981 NO WT 9/15/81 p.25

    WILL THE MEN OF SODOM AND GOMORRA BE RESURRECTED?
    1879 YES WT July, 1879 p.8
    1952 NO WT 6/1/52 p.338
    1965 YES WT 8/1/65 p.479
    1988 NO WT 8/1/88 p.31
    1988 YES "You Can Live Forever..." p.179 (Old Edition)
    1988 NO "You Can Live Forever..." p.179 (New Edition)
    1988 YES Insight On The Scriptures, Vol.2, p.985
    1988 NO Revelation - Its Grand Climax p.273

    WHEN WAS THE 'SECOND PRESENCE' OF JESUS CHRIST?
    1874 - Harp of God, 1921, p.234
    1874 - WT 1/1/24 p.5
    1874 - Creation, 1927, p.289
    1874 - Prophecy, 1929, p.65
    1914 - AWAKE! 4/22/57 pp. 11,12
    1914 - From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained, 1958, p.170
    1914 - God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years..., 1973, pp. 209,210
    1914 - You Can Live Forever..., 1982, p.147

    The Society said in the Watchtower issue of WT 1/15/93 p.5 "The
    Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus' presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914."

    "CONSISTENTLY"? After examining the above quotes, is this true?

    WHO IS THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?"
    a. All anointed Watchtower members - JWS in the Divine Purpose, p.68
    b. Brother Russell filled the office of special "servant" - WT 3/1/23 p.6
    c. From 1896 to 1916 - Watchtower founder, Charles Taze Russell The
    Finished Mystery, 1917, p.5
    d. Charles Taze Russell - The finished Mystery, 1917, p.53
    e. Spiritual Israelites: the 'anointed' Society members - From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained, 1958, p.193
    f. The Watchtower admits earlier view that Russell was considered "the
    Servant" Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, 1959, p.69
    g. A "class" of individuals - 1975 Yearbook, p.88
    h. "Russell disavowed being the Servant." - God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years..., 1973, pp.345,346
    i. The Society asserts that it never published a biography of Pastor Russell - Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, 1959, p.63
    j. But here are the Introductory pages of the Society's Biography of Pastor Russell - The Divine Plan of the Ages, 1927 Ed., p.1

    (So, why the cover-up?)

    k. Because in this Biography Russell admitted in private that HE was "the Servant" - The Divine Plan of the Ages, 1927 Ed., p.7

    SOME NOTABLE QUOTES...

    "A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New light" never extinguishes older "light" but adds to it." Charles Russell in Zion's Watchtower, Feb. 1881,
    p.3

    "It is a serious matter to represent God and Christ in one way, then find that our understanding of the major teachings and fundamental doctrines of the Scriptures was in error, and then after that, to go back to the very doctrines that, by years of study, we had
    thoroughly determined to be in error. Christians cannot be vacillating - 'wishy-washy' - about such fundamental teachings. What confidence can one put in the sincerity or judgment of such persons?" WT 5/15/76 p.298

    "However, it may have seemed to some as though that path has not always gone straight forward. At times explanations given by Jehovah's visible organization have shown
    adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case. This might be compared to what is known in navigational circles as "tacking." By maneuvering the sails, the sailors can cause a ship to go from right to left, back and
    forth,..." WT 12/1/81 p.27

    But then they say:

    "...to run "not uncertainly" means that to every observer it should be very evident where the runner is heading. The Anchor Bible renders it "not on a zigzag course." Wt 8/1/92 p.17

    Yet this right to left "zigzag course" is the very direction that the Society has given itself permission to take!

    We have the right to again ask: "What confidence can one put in the sincerity or judgment of such persons?"

  • JT
    JT

    new light2

    SIT stated the following:

    And after ALL this digging and going through the vast volumes of anti-JW literature, I began to see light shining from the Bible. I watched as most of my material fell to pieces, exposed as lies or exaggeration or just twisting the truth.. or clearly unscriptural garbage

    ########

    what you have done is posted NO ANIT-JW MATERIAL - but ONLY WT MATERIAL. as we all know the information was taught as being provided by god to his FDS to be served as food at the proper time=
    jw were told that it was based on the bible

    yet we all know that much of what they were told as being bible based was never based on the bible

    If you are reading this post SIT would you consider that what was written by the wt in the post by newlight could be classified as:

    "clearly unscriptural garbage"

    you seee the WT says that all it's teaching are based on the bible yet the post show that much of what they teach is no more than the GUESSES OF THE MEN IN WRITING

    HOW SAD

    JAMES

  • chrisauld
    chrisauld

    Hi, I am not as researched as newlight, but, what about whether they are or are not 'prophets', there was confusion on this as well, I think, u know, 'we are not prophets', then 'we are prophets, something like that.
    I think they would argue that their 'discrepencies' were due to the light being given to them gradually, and perhaps they guessed too much.
    Who knows what 'cock and bull' they would come up with.
    C YA
    Chris

  • Moxy
    Moxy
    THE "ALPHA AND OMEGA"OF REVELATION 22:12
    Refers to Jehovah God - AWAKE! 8/22/78 p.28
    Refers to Jesus Christ - WT 10/1/78 p.15
    ( A major change in just 2 months!)

    just checked this and the second reference (w78 10/1), tho mentioning Rev text that refer to Jesus, does not re-interpret the 'Alpha & Omega.' The explanation as Jehovah was held in Revelation (88) and Reasoning (83,89) books and it is still current.

    mox

  • booby
    booby

    this needs a bump methinks.

  • peacedog
    peacedog

    One more:

    SEPARATING OF THE SHEEP AND THE GOATS (Matt 25:31-46)

    Prior to 1923: The separating of the sheep and the goats is a future event taking place after the tribulation.
    1923-1995: The separating of the sheep and the goats began in 1914 and is currently taking place.
    1995-current: The separating of the sheep and the goats is a future event taking place after the tribulation.

    A couple things to note.

    1. The current (since 1995) view is actually a reversion to OLD LIGHT.

    2. The previous (1923-1995) view is now considered OLD LIGHT and DOCTRINAL ERROR, yet was ATTRIBUTED TO GOD:

    The Lord revealed to his people the meaning of the parable of the sheep and the goats, showing how the "sheep" only would be spared by Jehovah when his wrath is expressed at Armageddon. All this information came not from or by man, but by the Lord God... --WT, 2/1/1938, p.35.

    Stirring up increasing interest in them, Jehovah caused to be preached from 1918 onward the startling public message "Millions Now Living Will Never Die," and in 1923 he provided the interpretation of "the parable of the sheep and the goats." (Matt. 25:31-46) --WT, 11/15/1955, p.698.

    For the anointed remnant who had begun to enter into the modern antitype of the festival of booths, spiritual illumination from Jehovah's heavenly temple beamed forth. It was during the gathering in of the spiritual class prefigured by Ruth and Esther that Jesus' parable of the sheep and the goats, as recorded in Matthew 25:31-46, was given special illumination for the enlightenment of their understanding. At the 1923 general convention... --WT, 2/15/1980, p.19.

    Since they have produced the fruits of God's Kingdom, Jehovah has blessed them richly by bringing them up to date in "the greatly diversified wisdom of God."-Ephesians 3:10. Thus, in 1923 Jesus' great prophecy about the sheep and the goats was properly understood, and it was discerned that the whole world was under judgment. (Matthew 25:31-46) --WT, 5/15/1986, p.14.

    According the WT$, God provided FALSE DOCTRINE. How insane is this? Any lurkers wonder how God might feel about the WT$ attributing DOCTRINAL ERROR to Him?

    We may not tell untruths in his name, for that puts God in the light of a liar. "Let God be found true, though every man be found a liar." (Rom. 3:4, NW) In Jeremiah's day the false prophets prophesied lies in Jehovah's name and lied against his purpose, foretelling in his name what he had not foretold. Therefore Jehovah was against them. He executed judgment against them at Jerusalem's destruction in 607 B.C. (Jer. 23:25; 27:15) Religious liars like them today cannot escape a like judgment but will meet a like end at Armageddon. --WT, 2/1/1956, p.88.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Bumped for all lurkers to see

  • Terry
    Terry

    Vaudeville.

    It couldn't keep up with the times.

    Same old same old.

    That's what the Watchtower faces. They have to dick with the Truth to make it seem hot out of the factory with that new bread smell.

    But, its the same old stink.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    They call covering the stink " ADJUSTMENTS "

  • Ding
    Ding

    Great post, Newlight2!

    Seems like instead of the light getting brighter and brighter, it's a strobe light flashing on and off!

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