I think for some of us who leave the Watchtower, like my friend here, we need Jesus to be completely false - Caleb
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The simplest way to undermine the Jesus of the gospels is to read the gospels and take every word seriously.
He was a thoroughly unpleasant person. A family-destroying, egomaniacal, false prophet and deluded cult leader.
However I find Carrier's theory to be compelling.-- Cofty
I think you read my comments incorrectly. I was speaking about what my friend had said. If you read the entire post from which you quoted, another individual said that they, themselves, needed Jesus to be a myth. In fact, it is in the quote you presented.
I was just saying that perhaps others feel the same.
To claim as you have that "nothing could be further from the truth" about comments like these from my friend, means either:
1. You have an ability to look into people's minds and see whether or not they really mean what they say, such as "I need Jesus to be a myth" or "I really like the cake you made."
2. You are claiming I am lying about my friend's comments, which means you are also claiming the same ability in reference to what I have stated.
But I think you just mistook that I wrote it was an axiom that all who reject Jesus need him to be a myth. That would be ridiculous. Remember, I'm Jewish. If I meant it in such a fashion I would be insulting my own people.
It was curious to hear those comments from my friend, yes. And I find them hard to comprehend. But I have heard other similar things. When studying demonology as part of my theological training I saw one person leave the program upon our assignment to visit a so-called haunted house. When asked by the instructor why the student said that they could not accept the idea of seeing anything that might possibly change their convictions about spirits.
So my comments were based on what others have said. My comments were that some people choose to be ignorant by not even looking at facts because they want to hold onto what they believe. I wasn't saying that those who reject Jesus aren't being honest with reality. One more time, I'm a Jew. That would be a silly thing for a Jew to say.