If the light is getting brighter why are they getting dumber?

by scotoma 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • scotoma

    Don't they have editors?

    Why can’t they get it through their heads that they aren’t under the Mosaic Law.

    Look at the “imperfect food” that was served up at the Nov 14 Watchtower study.

    "3. What can we learn about clothing from God’s Law to the Israelites?

    3 For example, in God’s Law to the Israelites there were rules that protected them against the

    openly immoral way of life of the nations around them. The Law showed Jehovah’s strong

    feelings against clothing that does not make clear the distinction between male and

    female—what has been described in our day as unisex fashion. (Read Deuteronomy 22:5.)

    From God’s stated direction about clothing, we clearly see that God is not pleased with styles

    of dress that feminize men, that make women look like men, or that make it hard to see the

    difference between men and women." (End of Quote)

    Did the same people write paragraph 17 of that study?

    "17. What are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?

    17 What about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard? The Mosaic Law required men to wear

    a beard. However, Christians are not under the Mosaic Law, nor are they obliged to observe it.

    (Lev. 19:27; 21:5; Gal. 3:24, 25) In some cultures, a neatly trimmed beard may be acceptable and

    respectable, and it may not detract at all from the Kingdom message. In fact, some appointed

    brothers have beards. Even so, some brothers might decide not to wear a beard. (1 Cor. 8:9, 13;

    10:32) In other cultures or localities, beards are not the custom and are not considered acceptable

    for Christian ministers. In fact, having one may hinder a brother from bringing glory to God by

    his dress and grooming and his being irreprehensible.—Rom. 15:1-3; 1 Tim. 3:2, 7" (End of Quote Paragraph 17)

    Shouldn’t the question for paragraph 17 be a template of the question for paragraph 3?

    Shouldn’t the question be "What can we learn about beards from God’s Law to the Israelites?"

    Notice the defense for some brothers wearing a beard is “The Mosaic Law required men to wear

    a beard. However, Christians are not under the Mosaic Law, nor are they obliged to observe it.”

    So which is it? Are we under the law or not?

    Obviously the homophobic tight pants Tony must have written paragraph 3.

    Why doesn’t paragraph 17 make the same assertion about beards as it does about clothing.

    To be consistent it ought to say that “God is not pleased with men shaving off their beards.”

    Isn’t shaving of your beard a feminizing act? Unless there is some hormone imbalance Women have smooth faces.

    By the way the, illustrations of paradise in the publications indicate that they will still have razors in the New

    World. Try to find a picture with bearded men in depictions of paradise.

    And wouldn’t tight pants be preferable to baggy pants to distinguish males from females?

    Shame on you so-called "scholars".

  • schnell

    They like it both ways.


  • stuckinarut2

    Yes, great thread!

    Either way, I thought we ARE NOT UNDER the MOSAIC LAW ??

    It amazes me how the society so freely uses the comparisons to that unfaithful nation when it suits the point they are trying to make!

    Anyway, just an observation, but didn't the Isrealite men wear DRESS-LIKE garments??

    And yes! Beards show clearly the difference between a man and woman! God made men with "manly" beards right??

    The level of idiocy is oustanding

  • blondie

    They talk too much. In the past the WTS just referred to past comments and moved on. I wonder why they feel pressured to talk about this more and prove there are no scriptural points other than the WESAYSO so do it.

    There is more communication between jws from other areas....jws get to see there and are different rules in other congregations than their own. That it is the so-called "keeping order" in the congregation principle that prevails.

    In my area there was a big brouhaha about whether sisters could have more than one piercing in one ear lobe. Some elders' wives in my old congregation had 2 in each ear/lobe and some sisters from another congregation saw that at the circuit assembly and complained to their husbands. It ended up in a battle between the BOEs and then one elder called the "service desk" who said that each BOE could make the "rules" for their own congregation but not for other congregations.


    Of course, God’s Word does not spell out every arrangement or procedure needed to help the congregation function. Yet, the Bible does say: “Let all things take place decently and by arrangement.” (1 Corinthians 14:40) The Governing Body obeys this direction by putting in place various helpful procedures and guidelines that ensure the smooth and orderly operation of the congregation. Responsible Christian men do their part by setting an example of obedience as they put such arrangements into effect. They also show themselves “reasonable, ready to obey” those placed in oversight. (James 3:17) Thus, each group, congregation, circuit, and country is blessed with a united, orderly body of believers who reflect well on the happy God.—1 Corinthians 14:33; 1 Timothy 1:11.

  • OneGenTwoGroups

    Just like many other sects of Christendom and other religions. Your holy scriptures can be mumbo jumbo'd to fit what ever belief you already have. Even if it doesn't actually make any sense at all, your sheeple shall follow.

  • blondie

    Remember these are the people that have a hidden rule in the elder's manual accessible supposedly only to elders that says:


    has taken place when 2 people of the opposite sex unmarried, or married to others or 2 known homosexuals spend overnight together without a chaperone.

    I wonder when night starts and ends.

    I wonder why sex during the day between the same people under the same circumstances does not constitute porneia?

  • Sorry

    They have always said while we are not under the Mosaic law anymore, we should look at it as a "guideline". I thought it was so stupid. Either we are under the law or not. Can't have it both ways. But the WT loves having everything both ways.

  • smiddy

    Jehovah`s Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth .

  • Luo bou to
    Luo bou to

    so Blondie you could have a threesome if you claim one is a chaperone idiots yet they wont believe a victim of sexual sbuse without 2 witnesses i

  • Vidiot
    scotoma - "If the light is getting brighter why are they getting dumber?"

    The inevitable result of moving further and further away from "physical perfection"? :smirk:

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