Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

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  • opusdei1972

    Here is an interesting commentary given by Bart Erhman:

    According to Tertullian, Marcion took the words of Jesus found
    in Luke 6:43 quite seriously: “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does
    a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit.”
    Look around at this world we live in, said Marcion, this world of
    poverty, starvation, disease, war, and death. What kind of God could
    have created such a cesspool of misery and despair? In the Old
    Testament, God himself declares, “I am the one who creates mis-
    ery” (Isa. 45:7). If a tree is known by its fruits, and the Old Testament
    God is one who produces misery, what does that say about God?
    He is the one responsible for all human suffering. He cannot be
    thought of as good.
    But if there are good fruits there must also be a good God. This
    according to Marcion, is the God of Jesus, who must therefore be
    a different God from the one who created this evil world.

    (Studies in the textual criticism of the New Testament, page 347, Bart Ehrman)

  • opusdei1972

    Island Man: But Jesus performed cures on the sabbath. Jesus advocated breaking the rules to show compassion.

    Yes, and interestingly, Marcion, in the second century, was the one who led a christian movement based on that premise.

  • Crazyguy
    There are plenty of scripture s were Jesus contradicts the teachings of the old testament gods . Jesus even tells the Jew's in John chapter 8 that they don't know his father. I think that Marcion who did not liken the god of the old Testament made moves to make sure this was not the father of Jesus. Jesus was modeled after the god Serapis I believe and his father was the father of the Sun, Ra. Ra and his son the Sun Amen become one AmenRa. Jesus and his father become one. But there are plenty of sprinklings of Sumerian, Babylonian religious teachings mixed in. Jesus fights the dragon defeats death and gets exalted to the highest position over all the other gods. Same as Marduk and Baal Hadad.

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