Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders (page 4)

baldeagle

Give them "Hell" Royal Commission. These leaders should get what they deserve.

just been looking over the letter again anyone notice how its all about the molester only at the end does it mention any kind of interaction about the victim Q47 on. Look at the ridiculous counsel on Q50 & 51. I mean please, with all respect these men are window cleaners, office workers, tradies. Not that theres anything wrong with these jobs but you don't call a child psychologist to fix your T.V. No you call them when a child has been abused. Are these men stupid. I have a good mind to pull an elder to one side at a meeting an ask him " so hows your penis going, how big does it get when its erect, which hand does your wife use, did you enjoy it, how long did it take before you shot your load." You think I would get into trouble? Brazen conduct. But its perfectly acceptable for them to ask anything they want. BCG said she went through 3 court trails and yet they were easer to face then the elders. The GB should be ashamed. I read one story, 3 elders asked the victim all the details, in front of the man that raped her, asked her how wide her legs were while he was on top of her. If it was my child id blow his bollocks off.

Sabin

myohmyohmy. No35, when a former child molester (perhaps only known to the elders) begins attending cong meetings or when shown MERCY & isn't D, elders kindly, BUT frankly, discuss what type of action regarding children he should CLEARLY avoid. This would include not allowing children other than his own to spend the night at his home.............! Anyone see the problem here. (panorama, BBC," suffer the little children") Their the ones he will be abusing the most. Have any of these idiots actually been abused themselves? I think not. It warps the mind, that is to say it opens the child up to something they are way to young to understand, then going through the teenage years they expose themselves to further abuse. that why so many in the porn industry come from this back ground, end up on drugs, alcohol abuse etc. then these clowns expel them from the cong. When shown mercy, are they for real. When has a child abuser ever shown mercy. Q does anybody know of a single child abuser who went to the elders of their own accord before the child/parent spoke up. I can tell you NO bloody way. So how can they be repentant. We are talking about pre-pubescent children here, completely under developed, innocent. They should be D and never allowed back. The little ones have to suffer the rest of their lives why the hell shouldn't they.

Oubliette

11. If a former child molester continues in a position of responsibility ... it could affect the faith and confidence that our brothers have in Jehovah’s organization.

Really?

Ya think!

Let's review: It's a cult!

Oubliette

ScenicViewer: How could there be an outcry about him, or how could he be a known child molester if his identity is kept secret from the congregation and the police, which is generally the case?

That is, I believe, the entire point of this investigation.

Well put!

Oubliette

C0ntr013r: If ... a child [is molested, that] is not important, what is important is if anyone knows about it!?!?

Yes. It is all about appearances. Unfortunately it is only about the appearances of the organization with complete and utter disregard for anything or anyone else.

The negligence of the Governing Body and the entire leadership of the WTBTS is criminal.

sir82

At the very least you think they would have the self awareness to know how this would look if it ever got out and not print this.

Incredible, isn't it?

I am constantly struck by how one moment they are slick as eels, and the next they are clueless oafs.

Vidiot

dgeero - "At the very least you think they would have the self awareness to know how this would look if it ever got out and not print this."

Not if you were convinced it was "God's Earthly Organization", and that He's got your back.

Oubliette

QUESTION 7: Should the elders ask a man who is reaching out for congregation privileges
whether he has ever molested a child?

24. Answer: No.
25. Factors to consider: When the branch office approves a recommendation for one to be a
ministerial servant or an elder, we ask two elders to speak with the man before his appointment is
announced. They will ask if there is anything in his past or in his personal or family life that would
prevent him from being qualified to accept the appointment or if there is any other reason why his
appointment should not be announced. If he has never previously served as an elder or a ministerial
servant, the elders should specifically ask him if he has ever been involved in the past with child
sexual molestation.

In other words: No, but actually yes.

Let's review: It's a cult!

Brokeback Watchtower

Yes elders should ask but that doesn't neccesarily mean he won't be appointed in some case it was already known to the body to be such as case history shows: that a person has molested a child was reproved or df's got reinstated and work his way up to elder. So this question is doesn't specify disqualification.

Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

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