Inspired Writting?

by kenpodragon 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    To start I would like to say, I apologize if any of this post offends Christians. If you are a Christian and get offended from people questioning the Bible, I would not read beyond this paragraph. This is written with a slant on a Witness view and teaching I had to overcome in my exit ... The other night I was reading a book, something I do often, when I got to a part that really touched me. It made so much sense and seemed to put everything into perspective with something I was thinking about. I set there thinking, I like the way this author writes. He makes sense, he explains himself and he says in it a way I can understand. In doing so, one thing was missing. I did not say, "this man was inspired by God." Why would I not say that? Well one thing my post-Witness life has allowed me to accept, is that there are a lot of publications out there to read. Some are good, and some make me wonder, "why would anyone ever buy this?" In the end though, it comes to my attention that men and woman can write some great words. They can explain things to me, they can teach me things and they can give advice that I will take with me into the future. So with this in mind, what makes these any less in value from the Bible. Are we to think, that just because we have computers now and dictionaries, that man has improved in the ability to write and think. Is it not possible that, although less because of education in history, that people in the past were able to write as well as people in the present. In doing so, they made some records or descriptions that touched hearts and maybe inspired people to say, "God must have written this!" Think for example of all the things made in the past, the large structures and the inventions, or even some of the explorations made. In many cases, man always credited these huge leaps into advancement of man with God. In doing so, doesn't it make equal sense that man would have done the same with a certain percentage of writings. One thing I remember from my "let's dive deep into studying the Bible days" was the knowledge that there were many other books of the Bible. That their were many other religions during the time of the founding of Christianity, that taught similar things. So when I think about this, I question the Bible as the word of God even deeper. Why do I do this? Well for one thing, the Bible is not as well written as people expect me to believe. Many thoughts actually contradict others, and there are parts in the Bible that make no sense to the overall stated theme. Especially when we are told the God of the Bible is love, and then see records of so much hate and destruction. Then there is the mistranslations, and paraphrases that make you wonder if what you are reading is even what the author meant. Something that would seem more common in a piece of modern literature, than with a book I should be basing my entire life around and be willing to die for. So when I read all of the books I have read in my life, the Bible included. I always come to spots that make a lot of sense, that inspire in me the thinking I need at the moment. In the end though, I realize that much like the fact that man has always been one to invent things, to better their lives. Man has also, always had the ability to write things that inspire greatness in others. With this in mind, I feel a freedom in my thoughts, that my doubts in the Bible and with the teachings it lays out. I do not feel any guilt in thinking, "these are some interesting inspiring thoughts, but I do not feel they are the word of God" any more so then the books I read and enjoy everyday. My thought Dragon

    Edited by - kenpodragon on 14 October 2002 22:9:19

  • nilfun
    nilfun

    One part of the bible that seems to be inspired by a muse is the Song of Solomon.

    Many, many wonderful pieces of music and works of art and stories seem as though

    they were dictated from god, or inspired. The reality is that

    inspiration is really just a lot of hard work.

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon
    Can any of you object to that?

    I have no problem with that. Honestly I know many people with fancy cars, huge homes, vacations to the best resorts, and yet they are never happy. I have often thought, that with the advent of wealth comes the confusion with personal worth. Basically, we have it all and yet we wonder was it all worth it. There is a huge depression rate in all lottery winners, when you would think they are the happiest people on the planet.

    My thought

    Dragon

    PS : I might not be a Christian, but I do think there is many valuable points in the Bible.

  • nilfun
    nilfun

    Can any of you object to that?
    No objection here. I enjoy Song of Solomon too. I guess pain & unhappiness were his muses...
  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    It doesn't offend me as a christian at all.

    "Are we to think, that just because we have computers now and dictionaries, that man has improved in the ability to write and think."

    Absolutely. I have often thought that it is so arrogant of us to consider that people in biblical times were somehow backward. We need only look at the fact that they had wine, cheeses, breads, metals etc. and many, many skills that we ourselves don't, to realise that these people weren't "slow". Same goes for language, but perhaps much more so, because they weren't mute TV watchers like us - they spent more time in conversation, and understood truths of wordforms - not just the media amplified current new meaning for a word.

    "In the end though, it comes to my attention that men and woman can write some great words....So with this in mind, what makes these any less in value from the Bible"

    Jesus would agree - people forget that He enjoys great words. "She said, "Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table." Then Jesus answered her, "O woman, great is your faith!" I heard a woman say that the poor are blessed broken and handed out - I thought it was awesome, like God spoke right through her (as you say, that's what I thought must have happened).

    I think those who chose the canon did so as they happened upon great truth when reading it, not to say everyone does. Lots of people read classic tales and stuff and think 'hmmm that was nice', but for others there might be amazing truths at hand.

    An American actor once said, "Once you've heard the truth the other stuff is cheap whiskey"

    paduan

    Edited by - a paduan on 14 October 2002 23:19:41

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    Jim,

    Where in the book of Revelation do we find any valuable words of moral value? What can we learn from John's visions that is worthwhile to us now? Just wondering....

    Ken P.

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    he laid his right hand upon me, saying, "Fear not.."

    And here's one you might be familiar with, right near the start -

    " I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear evil men but have tested those who call themselves apostles but are not, and found them to be false"

    paduan

    Edited by - a paduan on 15 October 2002 0:0:38

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I think that many writers, artists and musicians are inspired, at times. By that, i mean that they bring into this world something from the other side. The window has been opened for them for a time. They craeted something out of nothing. Does this mean it's from god? Some could be, just as some of the bible could be from god. Ultimately, everything is an emanation from god

    The higher planes/other dimensions/heavens are much larger and more varied than we can concieve. The infinite variety of life on earth suggests this, as does the infinite variety of phenomona in our universe.

    SS

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon
    bring into this world something from the other side.

    I really like that thought. Thanks for sharing it.

    Dragon

  • Navigator
    Navigator

    I run across stuff all the time that I regard as "Inspired Writing". I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it, or hear it. Why do we think that God stopped communicating with men just because a bunch of theologens got together and canonized the bible? Why did the King stand during a portion of the Messiah? Because he was open enough to hear God talking. The portrayal of Mozart in the movie Amadeus made the point very well. Salieri was more than irritated because God seemed to talk to Mozart who wasn't even very moral. There are those who seem to be able to get their own ego selves out of the way and let God come through. We could probably all do it, but we aren't willing to give up our sense of personal self. I'm with Saint Satan on this one.

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