Why are people racist?

by MrMoe 100 Replies latest jw friends

  • MrMoe 2
    MrMoe 2

    Dutchie -- Yes, you are right... but for heaven's sake money does not make a person, it reflects nothing, unless of course your "social class" is more important than your sense of humanity, and if this is the case you belong in the sea of mankind, a sea of machines...

    You see, i am just trying to understand racisim, and tho i understand the psycholocial foundation of it all, my heart and mind cannot comprehend the concept of hatred of skin tone.

    Why do I want to understand the concept? In order to start a cure, you must gasp the basic meaning of the disease.

    Amanda

    Edited by - MrMoe 2 on 30 July 2002 1:44:5

  • Swan
    Swan

    Dear Moe;

    I have worked around children with disabilities in the past and it is a good thing. It should bother you and make you reflect on your own motives, prejudices, abilities, etc. We all have prejudices; the trick is to identify them and then work to overcome them. These issues should make good hearted people think. That is an excellent thing to have happen.

    Just beware that you don't become like some I have worked with who become hardened and insensitive to it over the years. I always try and watch that that never happens to me.

    On the other hand, realize your limitations. You are only one person, and if you are like me, you will want to try to save them all. Have empathy and do what you can, but don't give so much of yourself that you will later resent them. It is a fine line to walk, and balance is very necessary. Trust your heart in this matter (the exact opposite of a scripture the JWs taught me ) and do your best to nurture these kids. You won't be dissappointed.

    Tammy

  • MrMoe 2
    MrMoe 2

    But i want to cure the world... yes i know, it is not logical and is a simple childlike dream to you, but if i could do anything, have one wish, it would be to touch the Race of Humanity. i don't expect any of you to understand... but i am going to make a huge difference, you'll see. I am only 25, i have my whole lifetime ahead of me, a good 50 years to make a difference... you'll see...

    Edited by - MrMoe 2 on 30 July 2002 1:42:35

  • Swan
    Swan

    I hope you can Moe. That is a wonderful goal!

  • Spartacus
    Spartacus

    In Tulia...From The NYTimes:

    Kafka in Tulia
    By BOB HERBERT

    Tulia is a hot, dusty town of 5,000 on the Texas Panhandle, about 50 miles south of Amarillo.

    For some, it's a frightening place, slow and bigoted and bizarre. Kafka could have had a field day with Tulia.

    On the morning of July 23, 1999, law enforcement officers fanned out and arrested more than 10 percent of Tulia's tiny African-American population. Also arrested were a handful of whites who had relationships with blacks.

    The humiliating roundup was intensely covered by the local media, which had been tipped off in advance. Men and women, bewildered and unkempt, were paraded before TV cameras and featured prominently on the evening news. They were drug traffickers, one and all, said the sheriff, a not particularly bright Tulia bulb named Larry Stewart.

    Among the 46 so-called traffickers were a pig farmer, a forklift operator and a number of ordinary young women with children.

    If these were major cocaine dealers, as alleged, they were among the oddest in the U.S. None of them had any money to speak of. And when they were arrested, they didn't have any cocaine. No drugs, money or weapons were recovered during the surprise roundup.

    Most of Tulia's white residents applauded the arrests, and the local newspapers were all but giddy with their editorial approval. The first convictions came quickly, and the sentences left the town's black residents aghast. One of the few white defendants, a man who happened to have a mixed-race child, was sentenced to more than 300 years in prison. The hog farmer, a black man in his late 50's named Joe Moore, was sentenced to 90 years. Kareem White, a 24-year-old black man, was sentenced to 60 years. And so on.

    When the defendants awaiting trial saw this extreme sentencing trend, they began scrambling to plead guilty in exchange for lighter sentences. These ranged from 18 years in prison to, in some case, just probation.

    It is not an overstatement to describe the arrests in Tulia as an atrocity. The entire operation was the work of a single police officer who claimed to have conducted an 18-month undercover operation. The arrests were made solely on the word of this officer, Tom Coleman, a white man with a wretched work history, who routinely referred to black people as "******s" and who frequently found himself in trouble with the law.

    Mr. Coleman's alleged undercover operation was ridiculous. There were no other police officers to corroborate his activities. He did not wear a wire or conduct any video surveillance. And he did not keep detailed records of his alleged drug buys. He said he sometimes wrote such important information as the names of suspects and the dates of transactions on his leg.

    In trial after trial, prosecutors put Mr. Coleman on the witness stand and his uncorroborated, unsubstantiated testimony was enough to send people to prison for decades.

    In some instances, lawyers have been able to show that there was no basis in fact none at all for Mr. Coleman's allegations, that they came from some realm other than reality.

    He said, for example, that he had purchased drugs from a woman named Tonya White, and she was duly charged. But last April the charges had to be dropped when Ms. White's lawyers proved that she had cashed a check in Oklahoma City at the time that she was supposed to have been selling drugs to Mr. Coleman in Tulia.

    Another defendant, Billy Don Wafer, was able to prove through employee time sheets and his boss's testimony that he was working at the time he was alleged by Mr. Coleman to have been selling cocaine. And the local district attorney, Terry McEachern, had to dismiss the case against a man named Yul Bryant after it was learned that Mr. Coleman had described him as a tall black man with bushy hair. Mr. Bryant was 5-foot-6 and bald.

    In a just world, this case would be no more than a spoof on "Saturday Night Live." Instead it's a tragedy with no remedy in sight.

    The NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the William Moses Kunstler Fund for Racial Justice, the Tulia Legal Defense Project and a number of private law firms are trying to mount an effort to free the men and women imprisoned in this fiasco.

    The idea that people could be rounded up and sent away for what are effectively lifetime terms solely on the word of a police officer like Tom Coleman is insane.

  • Vivamus
    Vivamus

    I don't think it will help just to avoid the words "black" and "white". People are different, and we should try to embrace the differences. Denying ones colour is in my opinion just as bad as being condescending about ones colour.

    "I imagine that one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain" - James Baldwin, Notes of a native son, 1955.

    Viv.

  • gravedancer
    gravedancer

    Moe,

    Go and live in South Africa with SYN for a year. If you come back as a non-racist I will be very surprised.

  • Francois
    Francois

    PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:

    (I haven't read ALL the foregoing posts, so I'm not entirely sure someone hasn't pointed this out)

    The government has a vested interest in breaking us up into races, and ethnic groups, and skin colors, and languages. The last thing it really wants is a united citizenry. If the government can keep things between all these divisions on a low boil, it is far less likely that such a balkanized populace will have either the time or the motivation to more closely examine what the government is itself doing. Divide and conquer.

    There is one major, primary set of functions of government: to preserve itself and to grow. Now, let's be clear. What do I mean by government? I mean the bureaucracy of government. The various bureaucracies that make up government want to survive, they want to grow in size, in power, in budget presence.

    Look at one of the primary things that brought down the Soviet Union: a crystallized, immovable, vastly complex, complicated and implaccable bureaucracy. And we've got ours.

    My wife is Cuban, an hispanic. I don't regard her as being of some other race, as each and every government form would indicate. She checks one box, I check another. That makes us basically different?

    Divide and conquer. Keep our attention focused on our differences, not on our similiarities. Keep our attention focused on "our" group. Are we getting our share of the goodies from the government, or is some "other" group getting some of "our" share?

    Why? The evil of government-sponsored class warfare. Democrat party sponsored class warfare more specifically. They are IMHO the sponsors of class and race warfare: the hated rich, the hated hispanics, the hated blacks, the hated corporations, keep 'em all stirred up. And the more stirred up they can keep us, the better they like it. For having created and perpetuated the problem we're discussing, THEN they claim that they, and only they, have the answer to this problem that they created in the first place. Neat, isn't it? And what would happen if we gave them the untrammeled power to "fix" this problem they created in the first place? A tyranny on the left; the viciousness of a socialist state, and ultimately to heard us into the barbed-wire enclosure of Marxist totalitarianism. You really want that? Freedom is a rare thing in human history. Slavery to the state and tyranny are much more common. We forget. King George is long gone. We're willing to trade freedom for security and will soon thereafter have neither.

    Be careful before you vote for a democrat. Think of Cynthia McKinney, Carole Mosley Brown, Kweisi Mfume, Charles Rangel, Gephardt, Daschle.

    francois

    Edited by - Francois on 30 July 2002 8:24:45

  • SpiceItUp
    SpiceItUp

    Why not go one step further....

    and just label it all prejudice. I am sickened by "people" that have the nerve to judge people based on insignificant things such as race, gender, sexual orientation, social status, cultural differences etc. Have we not grown enough to understand that these things are wrong.

    It makes me think back to when i was little and I was picked on because my family didn't have any money or because I was the only "white" girl in a "black" neighborhood. She would tell me that ones who feel the need to put others down have no self esteem of their own. I still feel that this is a main reason why their is so much hatred in the world. People are jealous of what they dont have. They are insecure when someone presents an attribute that they cannot duplicate or even comprehend. They are scared that they will no longer have control as a vast majority. They are scared that they will become a minority.

    Who cares if you are a majority or minority, one of many, one of few. Embrace your differences and learn from other cultures. Learn from our diversity.

    Is it wrong to judge another person solely on a particular physical attribute? YES

  • safe4kids
    safe4kids

    Racism bugs the hell out of me too, Moe. I was raised here in the south, by a TRULY southern, racist father...need I say more?? Interestingly, this is one area where being a JW actually was a positive as I was taught there not to judge people based on their color. Scary to think how different I may have turned out had I not had at least that one balancing factor.

    Years ago, I worked with a woman I had gone to school with and we would often sit in the employee lounge over lunch and chat. She had a son who was about a year old and I was totally APPALLED one day to overhear her telling some of the other employees...WITH PRIDE!...how she and her husband were teaching him to say the 'n' word. Can you imagine? I was floored, absolutely and completely disgusted.

    I read a quote the other day, which I thought on the surface was funny, and it is...but if you give it some thought, it really is where we're headed if discrimination and prejudice of all types aren't eradicated from the global society: End Racism. Kill everyone!

    Six, thanks for posting Ginny's comments! I miss her.

    Dana

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