The Society, Race, and an always white Adam.

by nicolaou 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    Okay, it's an old question but we haven't examined it here yet so let's have your thoughts.

    Adam was the progenitor of the whole human race, from his genes sprang the negroid, caucasian, mongoloid, indo-european and every other race on the planet.

    The Hebrew people were not selected as Jehovah's chosen nation until Abram had found favour with God so presumably all races were equal in His eyes before then [as indeed they always have been].

    So then, what basis is there, if any, for deciding what Adam and Eve's skin colour may have been?
    Could they not indeed have been black?

    This is a pointless discussion I grant you. Skin colour doesn't matter, and yet it irks me that the WTB&TS always but ALWAYS portray Adam as light skinned. [or am I wrong in that?]

    Nicolaou

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  • happytobefree
    happytobefree

    I've always accepted that they're a racist society. Why didn't the bethelite picture depicts all nationalities.

    Happy to be Free (Me)

  • JT
    JT

    as a black man, when i was at bethel we used to ask that same question
    there were 2 well known black bros who worked in Writing Ray Richardson and JR BRown now the new PR Dir

    so a few of us guys asked them why as well and they both said basically the same thing- it is due to the common view of the masses and how they would accept the message better, blah blah blah

    if any of you recall the "1914 Generation" wt back in 1984 on the cover were all these older white bethelites who were pictured as making up the 1914 generation.

    well at the time i was assigned to a congregation in Harlem "World Headquarters of Black Folks"

    well the pioneer sisters were dogged by the Black Muslims( Louis Farakan members) for walking around with a mag that had ALL WHITE folks on the cover- it was real sad for 2weeks trying to place that mag in Harlem- and when they do street work they use the little clear plastic sleeve and it was so sad

    so as balck witenesses you just accepted that the Society knew what was best for you

    how sad

    JT

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    JT,

    I think you hit on the nose when the brothers told you how would others would accept the messages better regarding the color of Adam. However, I do see Adam in darker color in the publications too, but that is not important.

    And regarding the cover on the 1984 Watchtower with all the white folks on it, I remember that cover very well. However, it never
    came into my mind of them being all white. Have you read any Firpo Carr books lately? He got some good books.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    To further get into the Society's 'mind set' on race, consider the following 1954 Wt article. Could any Africans present (if any) tell us how much things have improved over the past 47 years?

    Nic'

    *** w54 6/1 349-50 The Mind of the African ***
    The Mind of the African

    By a Watchtower Society missionary in South Africa

    TO a certain extent it remains true that a European is unable to fathom or understand the mind of the African. In the Union the subject becomes further complicated by the fact that the natives vary so much in environment and extent of civilized education. The three major divisions, aside from various tribes, center around environment (1) in the cities and towns, (2) on the Europeans' farms, (3) in the native reserves.

    In spite of the European colonization of South Africa since 1652 it is remarkable how the African culture and mind, even "town Africans," have resisted change to and acceptance of the white man's mind. Several factors have thwarted real changes: (1) the Europeans' "segregation" policy has isolated the African from social intercourse; (2) deeply rooted heathen customs and superstitions; (3) loyalty to their patriarchal society; (4) antipathy to and suspicion of the conquering and exploiting white masters; (5) growing African nationalism.

    All of Jehovah's ways are love. Love in completeness has marked all God's dealings with his creatures. Love among the members of the New World society is what will bind them to Jehovah the Theocrat and to all fellow men gaining everlasting life. Truly, then, the mental outlook or "mind of Christ" must be searched out and adopted. This requires all of Adam's condemned and selfish children to "make their minds over." Just as the Israelites of Jesus' day had certain advantages over men of the nations outside, so, also today Christendom has had some advantages over heathendom, in that she has had greater access to Jehovah's written Word and from time to time has been witness to the acts of faith and love on the part of sincere God-fearing men. While the African may have started with disadvantages of this kind, in this humble, childlike way he is now progressing rapidly in Jehovah's undeserved kindness and mercy.

    The great disadvantage the African has faced is that love has been quite unknown to him. An accurate knowledge of God's existence, and how he 'becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him,' has been lacking to him. The Africans have been victims of demonism, and the religious side of their mind viewed supernatural matters and spiritual things in a way that never inculcated love. Satan's immortality lie exerts a deep and wholly misleading basis for their belief in the departed "spirits of the forefathers," who can help them or punish them, depending on the suffrages of the living. Moreover, there has been a mind to "do business" with such "spirits," not on a basis of love for them, but based on fear and gaining a material advantage in exchange for prescribed animal sacrifices. Cruel witch doctors have been the unloving agents.

    Just as the preaching of Bible truth enables the African to 'renew his mind' concerning the true and living God, so also it leads him to view in a Christian light his moral obligations toward fellow man. The family relationship that Jehovah set up and that his Son expounded and Jesus' disciples put into operation among early Christians is difficult for the African mind to grasp, because it is based on proper love. Instead of cherishing and loving each other, the binding tie is mostly a material bond. The man, or rather the man's "village," bought him his wife or wives. The dowry or bride price among the Zulus is lobola. Educated Africans try to apologize for this basis for marriage and family relationship, but the fact remains that lobola effectively numbs the expression and cultivation of true love. The motive for having and rearing children is mainly a materialistic one. The daughters will be "sold" for lobola, and the sons will, through purchase of wives and rearing of children, "build up the village" numerically.

    With the breaking up of the restraint imposed through the harsh retaliation under the patriarchal social system, the African has been thrown into the twentieth century without any part of "the complete suit of armor from God." The breakdown in African morals is quickening toward complete chaos. Most municipal areas for Africans are overcrowded, unsanitary, poorly lighted and filled with immorality, vice, sickness, housebreaking, fighting, drunkenness, riot and political agitation. The policy of the present government is to resort to strong-arm methods of cruelty, more police, heavier sentences.

    The New World organization, thanks to Jehovah, is provided with the "weapons of the light" and has the only successful program for renovating the mind and clothing its subjects with a changed personality conformed to Christ Jesus, the Head. Secular education, admittedly, has failed to inculcate love. False religion, likewise, has failed to teach and follow true Christian principles, and the African has not been deeply impressed by what is so often hypocritical and partial. True religion, which does not make distinctions but which operates on the basis of love and abounds in the "fruitage of the spirit," wins his approval, respect, sympathy and co-operation. The African mind has one obvious characteristic: it is childish and imitative. The visits of African circuit servants are doing much to set a good example. What could help much would be for African brothers to mix socially with the European brothers. This is ruled out by the strict segregation arrangements in South Africa.

    All of Jehovah's slaves in South Africa rejoice to do what he commands toward assisting men of good will there to come out of darkness into his marvelous light.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    MESSAGE FOR SIMON

    The replies to this topic seem to be out of order, also the Topic title changes from that displayed on the Main Board to something else once I've entered the thread.

    ??????????

    Nic'

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  • Simon
    Simon

    Sorry, nicolaou
    It was a server problem affecting the time recorded against posts that caused it

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    Nic,

    I find the quote from the 47 Watchtower to be terribly ignorant and obviously written from a white man's viewpoint.

    I am not African, but I was engaged to an African, and knew several of his African friends, and I would say that they DO know love, but on a deeper and more spiritual level to the white man. They have love within themselves, and a spirituality that most white men lack. eg. Compare the harmonising and enthusiasm of black gospel singers to the dry renderings in mostly-white Kingdom Halls.

    The African way of thinking may not be the same as how a white man would perceive things, but then why should it? We all are affected by the cultures we grow up in, and the culture we choose to live in. Culture affects our attitudes, ways of thinking, likes, dislikes and often the religion that we believe in, or not believe in.

    AS for Adam and Eve, I've always pictured them as being a mixture of the future races, so that maybe Adam looked more like part African/part Hispanic, while Eve was part white/part Asian. Who knows? Does it make any difference to us how the Society portrays them?

  • Coded Logic
    Coded Logic

    Mitochondrial Eve lived in the Rift Valley over 150,000 years ago - so she was certainly black. But since when does the WT care about getting the science right?

  • dropoffyourkeylee
    dropoffyourkeylee

    I've seen wt literature (long ago) that was published for an African readership and Adam and Eve were black.

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