by RR 9 Replies latest watchtower scandals
It's interesting that the Society uses the "two WItness" rule, the Apostle Paul interprets this differently in 2 Corinthians 13:1. He says
"This will be the third time I am coming to you. "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established."Notice he says that he is visiting three times, and considers this "two or three witnesses." So why is it, that a 6 year old victim cannot tell her story of abuse two or three times and be accepted?
as usual, I have to ask you: WHICH BIBLE ARE YOU USING PLEEEEEASE?
this isn't Watchtower, where it can be assumed xxx bible is being used...
..PRETTY PLEASE...
Fuuuck, did they change that too?
Bang
RR , it still seems to me that 2 or 3 witnesses still needed in this verse. I just don't get it i guess.
What Paul is saying is, Each time he visits the congregation, it is like a witness to the congregation. And since it will be the 3rd time he visits that congregation he quoted "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established." To show them that it was at least 2 or 3 witness that he gave them.
Just my 2 cents.
here's some various translations for y'all:
niv:
2 Corinthians 13 Final Warnings 1 This will be my third visit to you. "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." [1] Footnotes
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nasb:
2 Corinthians 13 Examine Yourselves 1 (1) This is the third time I am coming to you. (2) EVERY FACT IS TO BE CONFIRMED BY THE TESTIMONY OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES. Show cross-references |
amp:
2 Corinthians 13 1 THIS IS the third time that I am coming to you. By the testimony of two or three witnesses must any charge and every accusing statement be sustained and confirmed. (1)
Show cross-references
nlt:
2 Corinthians 13Pauls Final Advice
1 This is the third time I am coming to visit you. As the Scriptures say, "The facts of every case must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." [1]
kjv:
2 Corinthians 13 1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
nkjv:
Coming with Authority
Paul's Warning; Greetings and Benediction
1 This will be the third time I am coming to you. "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established." [1]
kj21:
2 Corinthians 13 1 This is the third time I am coming to you. "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."
asv:
2 Corinthians 13 1 This is the third time I am coming to you. At the mouth of two witnesses or three shall every word established.
we:
2 Corinthians 13 1 This is the third time I am coming to you. The holy writings say `Any complaint must be proved by the words of two or three people.'
ylt:
2 Corinthians 13 1 This third time do I come unto you; on the mouth of two witnesses or three shall every saying be established;
darby:
2 Corinthians 13 1 This third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every matter be established.
i use this bible gateway:
Edited by - zev on 4 July 2002 9:57:6
Here you go, New World Translation
This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. 2 Cor. 13:1 NWT
RR,
: Notice he says that he is visiting three times, and considers this "two or three witnesses."
Interesting observation.
What is even more interesting is that in this context there is NOTHING to indicate that he is talking about sins, judicial committees, shunning or even accusations of sins.
Yet, the Watchtower Corporation uses that verse as its cornerstone for determining whether to mete out justice or not.
Farkel
One scripture says "there is a time and a place for everything under the sun" meaning even the very unusual can also occur, i.e. that there can be a necessary exception to what is otherwise the norm. But no, with deceased Leo the Pedophile Greenlees and his still lively kindred spirits in the hierarchy of today, we cannot expect them to be reasonable. Theirs is a tree rotten through and through: Gov Body-DOs-CO-Elders-MSs-wannabe toadies.
This is excellent. Thanks for the enlightenment on that scripture. Surprising no one before now mentioned it anywhere that I've seen...
Btw, what's a "toadie"?
