Sirona,
I am not going to be talked down to. Is that too difficult to understand? Do you liked being talked down to? I wonder if some of the posters here have taken a course in 'rudeness'.
WW: Let's Get Something Straight About Jehovah
by Francois 26 Replies latest jw friends
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larc
OK Wholewheat, now, I am going to tell you what to do. Don't be so darn sensitive. Francois was just giving you some mild (in my opinion) admonishion, to do some independent research. I took his comments as mild, because I have known Francois for a long time, and I know he is a good guy, and is just trying to point you in the right direction. I didn't mean any harm, believe me. Just curious, from another thread it became apparant that you are familiar with Ray Franz and have some knowledge of his story. Have you read his books?
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Sirona
No, I don't like being "talked down to". I understand that you don't.
My point was about the research and how you sort of indicated that you wouldn't be looking into it. I'd advise you to research it...you might be mightily surprised at what you find out. Some JWs know about it and remain faithful, some find that they have their eyes opened too much to go back. No matter what, you need to make an INFORMED decision to stay a JW, and you know that the society have published before that we need to make informed decisions about our religious standing.
to start you off, note this page
http://home.talkcity.com/librarydr/eztoamuse/webdoc16.htm
which gives a table showing ancient writings that are thought to parallel bible scripts, plus similarities between the hindu krishna and Jesus
and
http://www.fabrisia.com/crucifixion.htm
showing various gods and goddesses who were crucified, who died and rose on the 3rd day, etc.
and
http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/john_baptist.html
which shows some remarkable parallels between writings of Homer and the gospel of Mark in relation to the story of John the Baptist. The whole website has some interesting points http://members.aol.com/jalw/joseph_alward.html
I don't agree with the content of all of these sites, but it just shows what you can find if you look.
In egyptian religion, the pharoah was considered to be God incarnate and at the end of his rule his blood had to be poured out "onto the ground". Ptah wsa the mighty creator and Thoth was his mouthpiece "the word". I could go on but there are so many parallels its unreal. These religions were around before the bible was even written and some before the coming of Jesus.
Sirona
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Sirona
You may also be interested in the points raised in my letter to the society at
http://www.geocities.com/lovelight75/socletter.htm
In which I point out some problems with the JW new world translation.
I would be really very interested to see if you have comments about these links. I have posted them to give you the opportunity to consider something other than the watchtower magazine.
Actually, if you can answer the questions I raised in my letter to the society, and you give me good answers, I am certainly able to accept I was wrong...
Sirona
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wholewheat
Sirona,
I don't mind discussing Bible issues, but I'd rather not participate on a thread that's sole purpose is to degrade and insult me. Of the questions that you asked, the Society has provided answers for, you know that. If your not happy with their answers, fine, move on. You did make on error though. You said that 1Peter 3:14,15 is a quotation from Isaiah 8:12,13, and this is incorrect. Only 1Peter 3:14 is a quote of Isaiah 8:12.
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JanH
Wholeweat,
I posted some information and a link with references to the fact that in anient (pre-exilic) israelite religion, Yahweh was one of several deities in a pantheon, and that he had a wife, named or titled Asherah. Look in this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=31378&site=3
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Sirona
Ok I accept the 1 Peter thing.
It really bugs me though how you fail to answer any of the other points I raised. I wanted YOUR opinion, not the society's
Sirona