587 vs 607: JW sources only

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  • johnamos


    Quote - Daniel viewed the 70 years as being "the desolation of Jerusalem." It wasn't servitude alone. – end quote

    This prophecy did not apply to Jerusalem alone and the 70 years are in fact in regards to the time period that the nations would have to serve Babylon.

    [Jeremiah 25:8…and I will bring them against this land and against its inhabitants and against all these nations round about; and I will devote them to destruction and make them an object of astonishment and something to whistle]

    [Jeremiah 25:17 And I proceeded to take the cup out of the hand of Jehovah and to make all the nations drink to whom Jehovah had sent me: 18 namely, Jerusalem and the cities of Judah and her kings, her princes, to make them a devastated place, an object of astonishment, something to whistle at and a malediction, just as at this day; 19 Phar´aoh the king of Egypt and his servants and his princes and all his people; 20 and all the mixed company, and all the kings of the land of Uz, and all the kings of the land of the Phi·lis´tines and Ash´ke·lon and Ga´za and Ek´ron and the remnant of Ash´dod; 21 E´dom and Mo´ab and the sons of Am´mon; 22 and all the kings of Tyre and all the kings of Si´don and the kings of the island that is in the region of the sea; 23 and De´dan and Te´ma and Buz and all those with hair clipped at the temples; 24 and all the kings of the Arabs and all the kings of the mixed company who are residing in the wilderness; 25 and all the kings of Zim´ri and all the kings of E´lam and all the kings of the Medes; 26 and all the kings of the north who are near and far away, one after the other, and all the [other] kingdoms of the earth that are on the surface of the ground; and the king of She´shach himself will drink after them]

    [Jeremiah 25:11 And all this land must become a devastated place, an object of astonishment, and these nations will have to serve the king of Babylon seventy years.”’ 12 “‘And it must occur that when seventy years have been fulfilled I shall call to account against the king of Babylon and against that nation,’ is the utterance of Jehovah,]

    [Daniel 9:2 in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of years mentioned in the word of Jehovah to Jeremiah the prophet to fulfill the desolation of Jerusalem, namely, 70 years.]

    What is in yellow is the word of Jehovah to Jeremiah.

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  • trebor

    JW Sources Only...

    Taken from here: http://savedfromthewatchtower.blogspot.com/2008/11/1914-part-i-607-bc.html

    *Utilizes only 1 Bible passage (2 verses), 2 Society publications, basic math, and simplified explanations.*

    When Jerusalem fell is documented in the Bible at 2 Kings 25:8-9:

    "And in the fifth month on the seventh [day] of the month, that is to say, the nineteenth year of King Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, Nebuzaradan the chief of the bodyguard, the servant of the king of Babylon, came to Jerusalem. And he proceeded to burn the house of Jehovah and the king's house and all the houses of Jerusalem; and the house of every great man he burned with fire."

    The nineteenth year of King Nebuchadnezzar rule is when Jerusalem fell.

    What year is the nineteenth year of King Nebuchadnezzar?

    This can be deduced with the aid of referencing two of the Watchtower Society’s publications. The first publication is Insight on the Scriptures. On page 457 in Volume 2 under ‘Nabonidus’ it states the following:

    "Last supreme monarch of the Babylonian Empire; father of Belshazzar. On the basis of cuneiform texts he is believed to have ruled some 17 years (556-539 B.C.E.). He was given to literature, art, and religion."

    The second reference, the Watchtower Society's publication Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules on page 184 it states:

    "After reigning but two years King Evil-Merodach was murdered by his brother-in-law Neriglissar. According to the inscriptions that have been found, this usurper of the throne spent most of his time in building operations and reigned four years. When he died, his son Labashi-Marduk, though not yet of age, succeeded him. He was a vicious boy, and within nine months he had his throat cut by an assassin. Nabonidus, who had served as Governor of Babylon and who had been Nebuchadnezzar's favorite son-in-law, now took the throne and had a fairly glorious reign till Babylon fell in 539 B.C."

    Take into consideration along with the above information that both Historical data and the Watchtower Society agree that Nebuchadnezzar ruled for a period of 43 years...

    Insight on the Scriptures, page 480 in Volume 2 under ‘Nebuchadnezzar’:

    "Nebuchadnezzar ruled as king for 43 years"

    Now let’s gather the above information...

    539 B.C. = Year Babylon Fell

    Prior to the fall of Babylon, the history of its rulership is as follows:

    17 years = Rulership of Nabonidus

    1 year (9 months) = Rulership of Labashi-Marduk

    4 years = Rulership of Neriglissar

    2 years = Rulership of Evil-Merodach

    43 years = Rulership of Nebuchadnezzar

    Doing the math with the above facts:

    539 + 17 + 1 +4 + 2 + 43 = 606

    NOTE: We add here because we are tracing back the years of rulership. During B.C. years to go back in history you add years, to go forward in history you subtract years.

    Therefore, 606 B.C. would be the year Nebuchadnezzar starts to rule.

    Going back to our scripture in 2 Kings 25: 8, 9, it was during Nebuchadnezzar’s 19th year that Jerusalem fell.

    Doing that math:

    606 - 19 = 587

    NOTE: We subtract here because time is progressing during Nebuchadnezzar’s reign. The years decrease not increase, as we are calculating B.C. years and not A.D. years.

    From the above, 587 B.C. would be the year Jerusalem fell.

  • cappytan

    Just a quick bump.... Important OP for lurkers.

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