by snare&racket 19 Replies latest jw friends
i guess with or without god both beginnings require something coming from nothing
i have a hard time with that
but i have a much harder time believing an omnipotant being came from nothing and then created everything else, considering how simply matter can be understood to exist one would think it could easily come into existance without a creator before an omnipotant creator could exist without a creator
Who could deny the existence of factors beyond our comprehension?
This question is framed backwards, the real question is who could ACCEPT the existence of factors beyond our comprehension? We can only address the known and the knowable. We can't know an unknowable or even know if an unknowable exists - so why worry about it?
Ok...let me rephrase.
Who could deny or accept the existence ( given that the concept of existing is a construct of the human brain ) of factors beyond our comprehension?
Snare has ceded that there are limits to our comprehension.
We are of course capable of posing the question , but are we brave enough .. (as in willing to consider ) the idea that we may not , no matter how clever , have the capacity to answer all of the mysteries, enigmas which our limited thought processes can conjure.
That being said..all strengh to those who try.
Just about everything about our modern world is "beyond our limited thought process."
That's why we use and build tools. Like mathamatics, phsyics, quantum mechanics, scientific method, etc. And as we build new tools - those new tools help us build even better tools. So long as we can continue building better tools there's nothing in principle that would be beyond our reach. We've built computers that do trillions of calculations per second. And who knows, maybe in the furture we'll start making smarter people.
The tools we build are built within the limits of our cognitive ability.
The reasons we build them are born of our thought processes.
The physical make up of our brain is as limited as any other part of our human body, unless there is an influence outwith our human scope we are governed by the material of our construct.
The question remains.
galaxy can you elaborate as much as needed on "outwith" ? thanks.
lordy...
Hi prologos....outwith..in other words beyond the scope or ability of.
The tools we build are built within the limits of our cognitive ability.
Alright, without using mathamatics, physics, or any scientfic principles please build a car or a computer.
Hi coded...our cognitive ability makes it possible to use the methods you have cited, resulting in our ability to build cars or computers.
All possible because our brain is working within its limitations,
Best wishes.
