SPANISH KINGDOM HALLS BEING SOLD-OFF?

by The Searcher 28 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • XkhanX
    XkhanX

    My experience locally. Just sharing.

    Our cong is small about 80 pax, split into 2 groups. Used to meet in bigger groups but to reduce travelling time and to reduce group size we held meetings usually in houses.

    We all stay nearby and meeting is a breeze for most. Say about 15-30 mins travelling time.

    Those who stay nearby can be as short as 5 mins. Many stay back back after meeting to chat n associate. It's nice n cozy. Distance about 0.5-1km away.

    Then CO commented need to increase group size to be more encouraging. Have more comments n participation. We mobe to a far away location for meeting. Travelling time about 45mins for a distance of 5 km away from most homes. Thanks CO. That's not all. Now we travel 12 km away to used a hall shared n funded by 4-5 congregations, rented and not own. It's out of our territory n travel is a chore And tiresome. Before every change, there's always a pep talk on the benefits for such change in meeting arrangement. No one dare to complain or oppose. It's just simple a bad idea and I offered to find a near by location within our territory to cut travel time. Elder had no choice. Now I see many who are so tired after meeting ( some are dozing off at meetings due to the repetitive talks) and they can't wait to leave once the song is over. Not to mention the share of contribution to the rental, cleaning, time and transport .......poor JWs. Skinned and thrown about like sheep Without shepherd.

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    As informed in the letter dated 24th January 2014, the governing body has approved a new method to satisfy the global need for Kingdom Halls our need for a global real estate empire. As part of this program, a complete survey of the state of each kingdom has has been completed and of the needs of the congregations en our territory Governing Body for more money. As result of this survey, a plan of action (work) has been put forward for the coming years that involves the construction of new Kingdom halls, the renovation of those that are build and the closure of some that for various reasons are no longer adequate generating an income stream for us.

    The general details obtained in this survey permit us to give an idea of the scale of work to be carried out. Of the 705 meeting places used by the congregations, 295 will need to be abandoned, even though they were convenient, affordable and useful for the congregations involved. In their place, 214 Kingdom halls will be constructed with a total of 261 auditoriums. Further, in only the next 5 years, 156 halls will be completely renovated whether they needed it or not.

    Obviously, this project will affect a great number of congregations in the territory. Because of this, we are counting on the full cooperation of all congregations to support this extensive construction project, since you don't really have a choice anyway. In what ways can that be done we inconvenience you?

    In the first place, we encourage you to manifest the same spirit of generosity stupidity as you have up to now. Most congregations have donated the funds that were saved for constructions projects, an attitude that clearly demonstrates confidence in Jehovah and his organization (2 Cor 8:14). we can get away with hitting you up for more money and free labor. We express heartfelt gratitude for your cooperation naivete.

    Display confidence and support the gains that the decisions needs of the Governing body for $$$ in relation to the kingdom halls. For example, the closure of a kingdom hall can sometimes cause inconvenience to the the congregations that use it. We don't care, so suck it up. It’s possible that you will need to move to a different location or district, to a location that makes no sense and is extremely inconvenient, in the case of population centers with more than one congegation to attend meetings. It’s possible that to benefit from the existing halls, congregations will be joined, even when it doesn't benefit any of the individuals involved. These and other changes can affect our spiritual routine and it’s possible that it will require personal sacrifices, but that's not our problem. Despite this, meditate on the benefits that this project with your support will benefit all the congregations us, and the good benefits it will bring in the territory to our bottom line, allowing a good spirit to be maintained with our heartfelt support us to continue building our global real estate empire.

    Finally, the collaboration slave labor 100’s of volunteers chumps will be needed to complete the construction work. Do you have skills or related experience in constructions, building maintenance, real estate or other related field? If so, you could offer to work along provide free labor if your personal and family circumstances permit. For this, you can ask the body of elders for a form “Volunteer sucker Questionnaire for Design and construction, that will soon be distributed to congregations. Once filled in, you can give it to the elders in your congregation. This form substitutes the one previously used to work with the RBC. On the other hand, if your circumstances allow you to work be a slave full time, for a period of between 2 weeks and 3 months, you can ask the elders for form A-27. If you can’t serve as a volunteer chump in either facet, when your congregation participates in a project or renovation you have the opportunity to work as a volunteer slave labor and support the plans that your hall has to to provide hospitality for the brothers stooges that are completing the work.

    We pray, dear brother, that Jehovah continues to bless our new global constructions program to build our real estate empire, providing Modest and dignified kingdom halls that weren't actually needed, reflecting our worship and allowing for the expansion of our real estate holdings. We take this occasion to send our greetings and christian love

  • redvip2000
    redvip2000

    It is a money making scheme. Build new halls with the donations of the followers, along with their free labour, to build equity for the Watchtower.

    yup, pretty much. Build new halls, Congos pays for it. 10 years later, remodel them, Congos pay for it. 20 years later, sell it, Congos don't see cent of that.

  • stanley theater
    stanley theater

    Could you please post again the letter about the KH sell off. Thanks.

    Are there corresponding letters for the U.S. , UK and other countries ? If available please post also.

    I am curious to get a sense of how many properties could be involved.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Heartofaboy - "...dubbies have to live life on the edge of their seats because of the so-called imminence big ole J's big A..."

    Reminds me of an old movie theatre ad.

    "The Watchtower Society... membership buys you the whole seat, but you'll just use the edge."

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    This is just the beginning. As the Watchtower Corporate CEO looks for ways to pay off lawsuits and make up for their bad business decisions related to thier end of the world predictions that never come true.

    Since these guys that are driving Jehovah's chariot/organization can't seem to find the steering wheel or have poor eye sight due to their delusional state of comprehension I expect it to get much worse. Such is the folly of wishful thinking when engaged by the GB/CEOs running this show.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking

    Some psychologists believe that positive thinking is able to positively influence behavior and so bring about better results. This is called "Pygmalion effect". [citation needed]

    Christopher Booker described wishful thinking in terms of

    “the fantasy cycle” ... a pattern that recurs in personal lives, in politics, in history – and in storytelling. When we embark on a course of action which is unconsciously driven by wishful thinking, all may seem to go well for a time, in what may be called the “dream stage”. But because this make-believe can never be reconciled with reality, it leads to a “frustration stage” as things start to go wrong, prompting a more determined effort to keep the fantasy in being. As reality presses in, it leads to a “nightmare stage” as everything goes wrong, culminating in an “explosion into reality”, when the fantasy finally falls apart. [3]
  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    "...'the fantasy cycle' ... a pattern that recurs in personal lives, in politics, in history – and in storytelling. When we embark on a course of action which is unconsciously driven by wishful thinking, all may seem to go well for a time, in what may be called the 'dream stage'. But because this make-believe can never be reconciled with reality, it leads to a 'frustration stage' as things start to go wrong, prompting a more determined effort to keep the fantasy in being. As reality presses in, it leads to a 'nightmare stage' as everything goes wrong, culminating in an 'explosion into reality' when the fantasy finally falls apart."

    I remember reading about this years back.

    The first thing I thought was, which stage is the WTS in?

  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR

    Why is the Watchtower Society making long term plans to expand real estate so close to the end of this wicked, materialistic system? Back in 1974 members were commended for selling their homes and becoming Pioneers.

    Surely, with the end so close renting would be the best option. All the many years of toiling to build a property empire, is time that could be spent saving lives. Also with the Great Tribulation almost upon us, and the persecution that will bring, owning Kingdom Halls will make it impossible to 'go underground' unless they abandon the halls. Surely, with the end so close renting would be the best option.

    The hypocrisy of the Watchtower Society's position is not beyond belief - it is typical.

  • stanley theater
    stanley theater

    Does anybody have the corresponding WT laters for the KH program in the US , UK and any other countries ?

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